New Build Quotes - Phoenix

[NEB2AZ]

Here is the first quote.

Maximum Width:	Maximum Length:
Water Surface Area: 347 square feet	Perimeter: 80 lineal feet
Depth: 3.50 feet to 4.00 feet to 5.00 feet

QTY​	DESCRIPTION​	UNIT PRICE​	TOTAL DISC​	EXTENDED​
1​	Pool Package (Phoenix Area)	​	​	​
	PRICE SHEET DATE
1​	1 - January 2022	0.00​	​	0.00​
	DIRT TO STAY ON PROPERTY
1​	No dirt to remain on property	0.00​	​	0.00​
	BASE PRICE
1​	Presidential Base Package	38,245.00​	​	38,245.00​
1​	15% Down Payment Progress Payments	0.00​	​	0.00​
	JURISDICTION SURCHARGES (PERMITS STD. ENG. CODES)
1​	Phoenix (surcharge with county septic tank included in price) Permit Modification: Exclude Phoenix Surcharge with County septic tank permit	1,020.00​	​	1,020.00​
	LAYOUT
1​	Layout	0.00​	​	0.00​
	POOL SIZE AND DEPTH
80​	Pool Perimeter (1st 75' included in price, credit for < 75')	0.00​	​	0.00​
347​	Sq. Footage (1st 350' included in price)	0.00​	​	0.00​
5​	Additional Pool Perimeter greater than 75'	165.45​	​	827.25​
5​	Max Pool Depth (Up to 5' included in package)	0.00​	​	0.00​
	EXCAVATION-BOBCAT/TRACK HOE
1​	Combo Dig (Normal bobcat, w/small trackhoe)	1,015.00​	​	1,015.00​
	EXCAVATION
1​	Paver Addendum	0.00​	​	0.00​
1​	Pre Grade Done By Owner Amendment	0.00​	​	0.00​
680.33​	Mandatory Standard Dump Fees All Areas	1.35​	​	918.45​
1​	Oversize Top or Second Step	565.50​	​	565.50​
	PLUMBING
30​	Total Skimmer Run (15' Included)	0.00​	​	0.00​
15​	Skimmer Run greater than 15' (over 40' add surcharge)	29.00​	​	435.00​
5​	Total Number of Water Features	0.00​	​	0.00​
170​	Total Water Feature(s) Run (25' per water feature included)	0.00​	​	0.00​
45​	Water Feature Run greater than 25' per waterfeature	7.06​	​	317.70​
1​	Install Water Features Valve Box	125.00​	​	125.00​
35​	Total Lin. Feet Steps/Benches (35 Lin. Feet Included)	0.00​	​	0.00​
1​	AUTO Water Leveler, 1included	0.00​	​	0.00​
50​	Total Run AUTO Water Leveler, 1 (50 ft Included)	0.00​	​	0.00​
1​	Q-360 Ultimate In-floor System, (upgrade from Rebel, no surface returns) (1 Main Drain, 1 Leaf Canister Inc.)	3,364.50​	​	3,364.50​
8​	Additional Q360 Cleaning Heads	272.83​	​	2,182.64​
	PUMPS
1​	Upgraded - IntelliFlo VSF Package (VST2/420 Cart)	878.02​	​	878.02​
	BOOSTER PUMPS
1​	SuperFlo VS Booster Pump 25' suction	1,575.18​	​	1,575.18​
30​	Total Run Booster Suction (1st 25ft included)	0.00​	​	0.00​
5​	Booster Suction greater than 25'	7.06​	​	35.30​
	ELECTRICAL & CONTROLLERS
95​	TOTAL 1/2 inch rigid conduit (1st 50 ft. included in price)	0.00​	​	0.00​
45​	1/2 inch rigid conduit (over Included 50 FT.)	11.60​	​	522.00​
1​	Load Calc Form Required	0.00​	​	0.00​
1​	Load Calc Charge for Upgraded Elec.	362.50​	​	362.50​
1​	IntelliCenter i5 w/integrated WiFi, no credit for T/C	1,899.50​	​	1,899.50​
1​	Automated Valves, Per valve	212.51​	​	212.51​
1​	Add IC 40 Salt Cell	1,303.40​	​	1,303.40​
1​	Credit for Spectrum 360 White or Blue LED Pool/Spa light	-544.84​	​	-544.84​
1​	Multi-Color Spectrum. 360 Light, per light	640.34​	​	640.34​
40​	Total Run Pool Light Conduit Ft.	10.15​	​	406.00​
	ACRYLIC/NAT. CONCRETE DECKING AND ARTIFICIAL TURF
1​	Credit Acrylic Lace	-4,655.00​	​	-4,655.00​
	TRAVERTINE PAVERS (NON COPING ONLY JOBS 300' MIN)
80​	Coping Prep Per LF of Coping, any stone or paver deck	10.85​	​	868.00​
1​	Surcharge for Spa Travertine Coping	350.00​	​	350.00​
48​	12" Straight Trav. Coping w/other pavers, per LF	27.81​	​	1,334.88​
55​	18" Straight Trav. Coping (12'x12" & 6"x12" to finish at 18" wide) w/other pavers, wide beam per LF	44.71​	​	2,459.05​
492​	Travertine Field/Patio, inc border per sq. ft.	19.19​	​	9,441.48​
	OTHER TRAVERTINE ITEMS
492​	Upgrade Travertine, Group B various colors, per Sq. Ft.	4.20​	​	2,066.40​
	MISC. DECK/MASONRY ITEMS
20​	Standard Deco Drain, Regular per LF	19.58​	​	391.60​
1​	Strip and Finish back of Raised Area, up to 60 sq. ft.	290.00​	​	290.00​
1​	Paint and Stucco Beam or Masonry, up to 60 sq. ft.	456.75​	​	456.75​
37​	Finish 6" masonry Riser Fascia w/Std. Stacked Stone or Pavers	26.83​	​	992.71​
	RAISED BOND BEAMS W/ STANDARD STACKED STONE
20​	6" Raised Bond Beam w/Std. Stacked Stone, per LF	47.13​	​	942.60​
10​	12" Raised Bond Beam w/Std. Stacked Stone, per LF	94.25​	​	942.50​
5​	18" Raised Bond Beam w/Std. Stacked Stone, per LF	146.45​	​	732.25​
	RAISED BOND BEAM UPGRADE/ EXTRAS
1​	Sleeves in Pool, steps or benches only, no in floor	73.95​	​	73.95​
	BOBE WATER FEATURES (COPPER OR STAINLESS STEEL)
3​	8" Smooth Flow Radius Stainless Steel Scupper (25' run) - SURFACE RUST IS INHERENT W/THIS PRODUCT	934.71​	​	2,804.13​
	LAMINAR JETS, BUBBLERS AND ROCK WATERFALLS
2​	Top Step Bubbler (25' run, top step only)	323.50​	​	647.00​
	INTERIOR FINISH
680.33​	White Marble Plaster (1st 650 IA SF included in price)	0.00​	​	0.00​
30.33​	Interior Finish Greater than 650 IA SF	5.08​	​	154.08​
680.33​	Upgrade A Selections Pebble Radiance, 620' Min.	3.93​	​	2,673.70​
	INTERIOR FINISH COLOR SELECTION
1 IA​	Pebble Radiance Color Selection A Group	0.00​	​	0.00​
	TILE GROUP SELECTIONS
80​	6" waterline tile (per foot), Perimeter included	0.00​	​	0.00​
	TILE
1​	Step/Bench Standard Tile Inserts (up to 20)	268.25​	​	268.25​
	SPA WITH POOL
1​	Spa, 5 Jets, 360 LED Light, Air Canister	8,708.45​	​	8,708.45​
20​	Spa Plumbing Total Run	0.00​	​	0.00​
5​	Spa Plumbing Run greater than 15'	29.00​	​	145.00​
1​	Credit for Spectrum 360 White or Blue LED Pool/Spa light	-544.84​	​	-544.84​
1​	Multi-Color Spectrum 360 Spa Light	640.34​	​	640.34​
20 ft​	Total Spa Light Conduit Run	10.15​	​	203.00​
0​	White Marble Plaster	0.00​	​	0.00​
1​	Upgrade Spa Interior to Pebble Radiance	688.75​	​	688.75​
	HEATING & GAS
1​	400,000 BTU Heater (natural gas) - Purchaser may have to upgrade gas meter/ANY UPGRADE IS AT PURCHASER'S EXPENSE	3,778.42​	​	3,778.42​
1​	Gas base (20' Run Inc, Inc Permit except Phx, Queen Creek, Glendale)	1,330.00​	​	1,330.00​
1​	Gas permit Mesa, Phoenix, Queen Creek, Glendale, Surprise	217.50​	​	217.50​
1​	SPECIALS AND DISCOUNTS	​	​	​
	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT -: Pick # 1 Free in-floor cleaning system ( base )	0.00​	-3,364.50​	-3,364.50​
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT -: Pick # 2 Discount off natural gas heater	0.00​	-1,889.21​	-1,889.21​
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT -: Pick # 3 Larger pool discount	0.00​	-2,567.25​	-2,567.25​
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT: Sales discount = Free 8" Cooper Scuppers	0.00​	-2,804.13​	-2,804.13​
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT -: General Special = Free upgraded pump and filter	0.00​	-878.02​	-878.02​
1​	SPECIALS AND DISCOUNTS	​	​	​
	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT
1​	ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT -: Sales discount = Free Top Step Bubblers	0.00​	-647.00​	-647.00​
Subtotal​	82,556.79 ​
Tax 5.59%​	4,614.92​
Grand Total​	$87,171.71 ​
PHASE COMPLETED​ AMT​ PAID​ DATE PAID​ DUE NOW​ Down Payment - 15% 13,075.76​ ​ ​ ​ Completion of Excavation (Progress Payment) - 25% 21,792.93​ ​ ​ ​ Completion of Shotcrete (Progress Payment) - 25% 21,792.93​ ​ ​ ​ Completion of Decking (Progress Payment) - 25% 21,792.93​ ​ ​ ​ Prior to Interior Finish (Progress Payment) - 10% 8,717.16​ ​ ​ ​ 87,171.71​ 0.00​ DUE NOW: 0.00​
Current Work Order Balance​	$87,171.71​

 

[NEB2AZ]

 

[NEB2AZ]

Second quote. When I asked for itemized he replied -

We don't really itemize since most of the items in the base are necessary and can't be taken out. I can tell you that if you did not want the Water feature Wall's on the back of the pool with the sheer's it would be a deduct of $4,607.00. If you do not want us to do the 244 sf of travertine deck, it would be a deduct of $3,660.00. (For that you may be able to find someone that does the travertine cheaper.)
Thanks

 

[ajw22]

Consider 3.5‘ depth versus 3’. That extra 6” makes a difference in swimming.

Confirm depths are minimum water depth to middle of skimmer and not to top of bond beam.

If the spa jet pressure is important to you then you want a dedicated spa jet pump.

I would want the IntelliChlor SWG.

I would not make full payment prior to interior finish. I want at least 10% holdback until pool and all equipment is fully operational.

 

[NEB2AZ]

Third quote that includes all landscaping and a larger travertine pad. This is the builder that would not send me photos or drawings. I could only see it when I was in their office.

 

[NEB2AZ]

A couple of the computer drawings from the first quote. Now i'm not sure if I want the wall with water falls or just a clean rectangle look with 2 or 3 deck jets like in the 3rd pic. Also i'll have the bench run the length of the right side of the pool and not to the left of the spa.

 

[mknauss]

Deck jets are noisy. Really noisy. We have them. Have used them a handful of times, for just a few minutes. I would not get them.

Be ware all water features to generate noise. And you want to limit their use to only when you are directly enjoying their operation. They drive up pH and disturb your pool water chemistry.

Do you have a whole house water softener? If so, be sure your auto fill line is plumbed in to soft water.

 

[Turbo1Ton]

Deck jets are noisy. Really noisy. We have them. Have used them a handful of times, for just a few minutes. I would not get them.

+2 - Mine are stupid noisy. Good for the kids, but other than that they don't get used unless I'm showing off.

--Jeff

 

[NEB2AZ]

Deck jets are noisy. Really noisy. We have them. Have used them a handful of times, for just a few minutes. I would not get them.

Be ware all water features to generate noise. And you want to limit their use to only when you are directly enjoying their operation. They drive up pH and disturb your pool water chemistry.

Do you have a whole house water softener? If so, be sure your auto fill line is plumbed in to soft water.

I don't have a water softener...at least not as of now.

 

[Nikilyn]

I can hear our neighbor’s deck jets from 2 doors down. I would go with the sheer descents as a water feature.

 

[NEB2AZ]

What are people's thoughts on spa height for the location of mine which is a bit cramped?

standard 18"? too high for the tight location?
12"
6"?

 

[Nikilyn]

Is the area behind the spa where you’ll usually be sitting? If it is you will want a short spa so it doesn’t block sitelines to the pool. Ours is a 6” bond beam. I wish I had understood that better though because I thought it would be 6” above the deck but with the 4” deck the spa is only 2” above the deck, which would be good if that is your main seating area. If that isn’t your main sitting area then you might want it taller. I wish ours could have been raised 18” just to make it easier to get in and out of. At 18” you can sit on the edge and swing your legs around.