Update 4/18/2022 - Engineering plans completed, equipment list modified slightly, City application permit is being submitted this week. Should be able to start getting quotes soon so I can get a good idea how much this is going to cost.
Laveen, AZ O/B Pool Thread
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thewolf56
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- Aug 3, 2015
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- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
That plumbing diagram is way more complicated than mine, so I am not qualified to comment on it, but I am glad to see that you have the option to select returns separate from the IFC. Is there a reason, though, that the cyclone pre-filter is only on the water features (which you will not want to run all of the time)? I am pretty sure CMP has a sediment trap that should be installed right before your sheers (similar to sediment traps on gas lines) so that the flow from the sheers isn't broken up by a pebble or anything else.
Darn good question! Let me check into that and get back to you. Thanks for looking and noticing that.
thewolf56
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- Aug 3, 2015
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- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
I went back and looked at the C-M-P manual, and a rock trap is recommended right before the waterfall, but the water should be filtered also. I'm not sure what the best course of action is, but here is the link for the manual I read.
According to the pool Consultant -
"CMP ships their sheer descents with a "sediment trap" and plumbers do not install them. They claim they run into more problems with those things than any benefit they provide.
I put a Cyclone on dedicated water feature pumps, (which do not go through your main filter) to pull out dirt particles and debris before it hits the return lines to your water features. Same theory, but more effective, as the sediment trap; prevent dirt or debris from getting into the water feature and creating a blockage.
If you talk to the manufacturers of the Cyclone, they will tell you its two applications are as a water feature filter and as a pre-filter on your main pump to reduce the amount of dirt and debris your main filter has to clean out. That means your main filter is not "working as hard" and likely less filter cleanings will be required. (The Cyclone does need to be flushed out regularly ... by opening a flush out valve and running the dirty water out of it.
I do recommend keeping a Cyclone on the water feature pump, and at your choice, you could add a second on to the main filtration pump if desired"
So based on above I will probably go ahead with an additional Cyclone on the Main, Greatly appreciate you looking at it and providing feedback!
"CMP ships their sheer descents with a "sediment trap" and plumbers do not install them. They claim they run into more problems with those things than any benefit they provide.
I put a Cyclone on dedicated water feature pumps, (which do not go through your main filter) to pull out dirt particles and debris before it hits the return lines to your water features. Same theory, but more effective, as the sediment trap; prevent dirt or debris from getting into the water feature and creating a blockage.
If you talk to the manufacturers of the Cyclone, they will tell you its two applications are as a water feature filter and as a pre-filter on your main pump to reduce the amount of dirt and debris your main filter has to clean out. That means your main filter is not "working as hard" and likely less filter cleanings will be required. (The Cyclone does need to be flushed out regularly ... by opening a flush out valve and running the dirty water out of it.
I do recommend keeping a Cyclone on the water feature pump, and at your choice, you could add a second on to the main filtration pump if desired"
So based on above I will probably go ahead with an additional Cyclone on the Main, Greatly appreciate you looking at it and providing feedback!
ddoggphx
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- Sep 8, 2021
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- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-9)
Yeah yours is really similar to mine! I'll send you some contacts.
Love your design.
Love your design.
Quotes are coming in, Dang this stuff is expensive! lol
Winter247
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- Sep 12, 2021
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- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Love you design! Like @ddoggphx , mine has some similarities. Apparently we're using the same consultant... and I had/have many of the same questions. Haven't ordered my equipment yet and am still finalizing the plans. I think I'm going to do the 2 Multicyclone Pre-Filters as well. On for the main and one for the sheer descent. Funny, my equipment quote came in just over $20k, which I also thought was high... but I guess we're all in the same boat. You're making me nervous for when bids start coming in though! lol
Curious how far out your subs are quoting? I've heard from a few people that getting subs in AZ is a pain right now.
Curious how far out your subs are quoting? I've heard from a few people that getting subs in AZ is a pain right now.
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I just started yesterday getting quotes so to early to tell yet, lets keep our fingers crossed that it's not to bad.
@Winter247 and @kjjones I found a contact that sells the pool equipment at discounted prices. It beat my lowest quote ober $3k. If you want the contact to get a quote from him let me know.
Talk to me!! I just got me quote back and it was close to $24k, I would love to save a few thousand if possible!