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    What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    My wife and I have been having discussions about the need or desire to have some exposed coping over hanging the pool. My wife believes that some extension will assist swimmers when grasping the sides. I think a more flush coping will make it easier to get out of the pool. We know we will bull nose the coping though we have not finalized the coping choice. We are also putting in an auto cover. There are two ways this can be mounted in the pool, one is under the coping lip which would result in a 3 inch over hang, the other is 'encapsulate' the rail on the side under the coping, this will result in 1/4 inch over hang. With encapsulation the water level will also be a little lower. Our coping choices will be limited because of the extra thickness required if we go with the under mount. But we think we can find acceptable selections with either thickness.

    What's funny is we have been in agreement on almost all other items about our pool (dig starts April 13th) but this 'small' detail has us flummoxed.

    Does your pool have any coping over hang? Do you notice one way or the other? What is the typical standard? Thanks!!!
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    We have flagstone coping and a freeform pool so it is not uniform. It is mostly 1"-2" overhang. I think either of your choices is fine for a kid hanging on to the side. Personally, I would go with 1/4", especially if you have some benches around the pool for the adults to sit on for a chat and a beverage. 3" might be a little too much.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    I made mine 1.5 and have been happy with it.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    People like to dangle their feet so 'more' overhang feels more natural.

    Remember some/most of the church benches how un-natural it felt when your heals hit the back wall?

    Sit in a tall (bar) chair and see how you feet naturally rest.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    You need a little, so about 1.5"-2" depending on coping type is good.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    I'm at 1.5"
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    Thank you for the responses. I am now on the side of the overhang. I will post a visual of the CoverStar specs to show the 3 " requirement for undermount auto covers. Are there any autocoder owners who have some experience on this?
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    We have a Coverstar cover with the integrated rail. So the rail doesn't really project out. I don't see the benefit of an overhang type where it hangs on the underside of the coping. My coping does extend probably 1 1/2" but that is not a requirement of my cover rail. You can look in my build thread in (link in my signature) for some closeup pics of the rail and coping.

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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    Great info in this thread!

    Our pool (under construction) has a couple of inches of overhang, and I wasn't sure how I felt about it until now.

    Thanks!

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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    Thank you. We actually saw your build last fall during out decision phase, and 'rediscovered' it again this spring. Our basic's are fairly similar. I think integrated and encapsulated describe the same auto cover mounting process. Our PB talked with the Coverstar person who will be installing and he told us 3/4 of an inch is as far as it can go out before the coping interferes with the cover. You said yours is 1 1/2 so I am still researching.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    I didn't measure the overhang to be honest. Sorry about that. In looking at one of my pics, it probably isn't more than 3/4". It must be the same cover group though out of My Airy. It is the big round bar at the opening end of the cover that causes the limitation on the coping overhang.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    Thanks for confirming this! So I assume with the 3/4 coping lip you never noticed any concerns one way or the other.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    We have a lot of bench work around the pool so we are always sitting on them and leaning back up against the coping. It really depends on how deep the benches are/how it hits your back or shoulders/overhang depth/angle of recline/phase of the moon/etc. Ours has seemed fine. You are probably overthinking this one. We all do it on many aspects of our pool builds. But better to overthink than underthink.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    Absolutely over thinking! Time to find a new item to worry about.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    We too have a built in bench, which we LOVE by the way. Best add on we did. Anyway, at a 1.5" overhang, it doesn't annoy us when pressing on the back.
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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    if your pool coping has that grove to hook the winter cover into then don't overhang paver too much because its hard to access that grove.

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    Re: What is common for coping overhang on a pool?

    We have about 1.5" or so and it doesn't bother anyone on the bench. My neighbor has ZERO overhang and I think it doesn't look right.
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