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    Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Hi all from Lancaster Pennsylvania. I am one of those people that have listened to the pool store tell me how to fix pool (sucker born every day). Had some issues keeping it clean and clear last year but this year no matter what the pool company said to do it was not working. So after being sold another $100 of chemicals started looking myself and found this site. As my wife says I know have become obsessed with learning what to do. Got the small nth 6 way test to do some quick test I could get a real test kit (tf-100 arrived today). Could not get abroad on cya cause it was over 200. Empty some water and got a good test by diluting in half 190. Empty some more water and tested today after filling and am down to 120. Now I am going to empty and fill 8 inches for the next r days which should get me around 60 an I will be happy.

    Not worried about chlorine right at moment since cya is so high but here are my numbers

    12000 gallon AG pool with a Hayward 1500 cartridge filter and the pump that came with it.

    PH-7.0 A little low but have filter bubbling to bring it while I deal with CYA
    TA-90
    CH-200
    CYA-120

    All tested with my brand new TF-100. Pool is blue but very cloudy. Can't drain that much more cause got to be careful I flood neighbors yard.

    Thank you all,

    Shawn

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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Hey Shawn... sounds like you had an OUTRAGEOUS CYA problem that is currently being fixed. It also sounds like you have read up on how to proceed.

    Get the CYA down and if you need guidance, we're here for ya!
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Yep 48 inches drain 8 inches and refill and repeat lowers CYA about 17% per time so 5 of them will get me in 50 range. Pool is in direct sunlight all day so should I shoot for 60 or 80 on cya?

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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbleacher View Post
    Can't drain that much more cause got to be careful I flood neighbors yard.
    It's too bad that cities won't let you return the water for credit.
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Another 8 inches of water down the drain and starting to refill again while at work. Should be under 100 CYA when I test tonight. Rinse and repeat.

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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Hi Shawn, welcome to TFP! Getting CYA down to the 30-50 range is ideal, but your pool can be managed at 50-80 without too much difficulty. When you winterize you can drain down below the returns and be in better shape for next summer.
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Pool is down to 90 cya another night of draining and filling. Is it OK to have one hose draining slowly from one end of pool and another filling slowly from other end?
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    You can do it that way, but you may still get a little water mixing and loose some of your fresh water in the process. Drain from the deep end and fill in the shallow end.
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Both deep end or shallow end 4 foot all the way through. I have it draining near inflow and filling on completely opposite of pool 34 feet away.

    Thank you

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    Last edited by jsbleacher; 07-10-2014 at 05:03 PM. Reason: misspelled word

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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Hi Shawn! Welcome to TFPC! I'm across the river from you in Lewisberry. I've found that a CYA level of around 40 works pretty good in our area. Keep doing what you are doing. Every pool is different and I'm sure you'll find that "comfort" zone. I leave a little room in case I go on vacation and then, dare I say...... use pucks(noooooooo!!!) in my chlorinator so as not to rely on anyone too much.
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    I am just shooting for 70 at this point in time until next year with lowering for winter should be able to have it at 50 at start of year. Pool is cloudy blue green and anxious to get to work on it but want my cya down first.

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    Shawn
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    I'm about 45 minutes from Lancaster Shawn. Good to see another local person joining the forum. Stay on top of the pool and listen to all the advice and knowledge from this site and you'll be in good shape.

    Good luck!!
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbleacher View Post
    Hi all from Lancaster Pennsylvania. I am one of those people that have listened to the pool store tell me how to fix pool (sucker born every day).
    Okay, you said it first, so I can use this

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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Ok now the fun begins.

    FC=4.5
    CC=1.5
    TA=100
    CH=200
    PH=7.2
    CYA=80

    I know cya is still high but I spent a week dropping it from over 300 so now the slam started. Setting 31 FC as goal so added 2.5 gallons of 12.5 bleach and waiting to test again at 6 PM.

    Thank you all
    Thank you,
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Good luck Shawn. It's going to take a lot of bleach with that CYA level. Sounds like you have a good handle on it. Enjoy the weekend!
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    1.5 hours later.

    FC=31
    CC=0.5

    on track
    Thank you,
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Final for the night. Sun is down and have FC=35
    CC=2
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Overnight loss of FC=24 was FC=35
    CC=0.5.
    added more bleach per pool math 1 gallon and 2 cups.

    To get it back to 34.
    Last edited by jsbleacher; 07-12-2014 at 07:14 AM. Reason: Forgot CC
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    Last trip to pool store. Returned unused chemicals and had 30 dollars in reward money so bought lots of toys.

    Goodbye and good riddance pool store.
    Last edited by jsbleacher; 07-12-2014 at 09:02 AM. Reason: spelling
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    Re: Now the work begims to dig out of the hole pool company caused

    FC=29
    CC=0
    Added per pool math 2 quarts and 3 cups of 12.5 liquid chlorine
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