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    newbie drain and refil, now what

    I just moved in to my new house in sept. last year and my cya levels were thru the roof. I decided to wait until spring to do anything, and here i am now. So i am planning to drain my pool out and refill it, then I would like to know what step by step procedures i need to do. I am sure this info is probably posted already, but i can not find it. Please refer me the link if it is, and if not please give me the guide.
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    Step 1 test everything with one of the recommended test kits

    Step 2 post the results here to find out what you need to do next. No way to know until you test.

    Really you should test everything before you drain. Sometimes cya goes away over winter.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    tested the cya with the test kit i got from this site and it is half way between 100 and the bottom of the tube..i would guess that means it is over 300
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    TA: 130
    FC: .5
    CC: .5
    TC: 1.0

    water is still blue and looking clean even though i know it must not be
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    CYA is certainly too high then, maybe higher than 300, so a major drain is the first step.

    Then circulate the refill for at least an hour and retest to see where everything is at. You may need to put some stabilizer back in and certainly need to get some chlorine in the water.

    No point in doing anything until the water is replaced.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    right, so my next step is to drain. I am getting a pump in the morning, how much should i drain...i was planning 75%
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    Don't know what your water table is. I did 50%, wasn't enough and did. 99%. My Cya was close to 200, now cya is at 65 crystal clear water
    Good luck
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    is there a sign that i look out for while draining to make sure im not going below the water table...a pool guy came out in september and said i dont have no worries about any water table but that was in sept
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    ok back to my original question...what do i do after i add the water???
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    After you drain/refill you let the water circulate for at least 30 mins and test the water and post the results.

    Have you found the pool calculator? There is a link at the bottom of my siggy.

    While it is draining I would be going to all of your area stores and find your best deal on bleach/chlorine. It could be Sams or Walmart or .......Mine is the ACE hardware store just up the road. I got lucky!

    Make sure you are looking at the % of chlorine in each one as they do tend to vary from brand to brand.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    home depot has the big boxes of liquid chlorine...can i use that or is it most likely been sitting for a while and now old
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    You can check the date codes on them ... I think it is the year and then the day of the year. But, since they sit outside usually, they might be a little weaker. The Wal-Mart brand by us is basically the same cost when you account for the strength difference. See the calculator here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...ine-calculator
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    thanks....
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    i have finished draining 80% if my pool water..(cya was over 300)..after i add new water i doubt that i need to shock it but just want to clarify....
    do i shock the new water?
    or once filled
    do i bring the ph and TA up to correct levels
    then add the chlorine?

    I am looking for someone to give me step my step instructions after my pool has been filled with brand new water.
    what is the order of adding ingredients?
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    Fill. Pump for hour. Test and post results.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    So liquid chlorinator 2x1 gallons by hth
    10% sodium hypochlorite
    90% other ingredients
    This is what I want right?
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    That will work.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    That or http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Valu...fl-oz/31955545 This is 8%

    Lowes sells bleach as does most stores. You can also get it from the local pool store. Most pool stores have 11% bleach/chlorine-make sure to ask.

    You know your prices and location and what store will be quick and easy to get to on a regular bases.

    I got lucky that I have a ACE Hardware just up the road from me with 11%. It is the cheapest in town and oh so easy!

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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    While you are waiting for your pool to fill, I would suggest read "The ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry" up in Pool School.

    Reading between the lines, it sounds like you need to develop a good grasp of what you are testing and why you are testing and/or adjusting it.
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    Re: newbie drain and refil, now what

    water is filled one foot from the fill line and i am trying to run my pump and i can not get the pump to prime..am i forgetting something
    26k gallons IG painted Plaster
    Hayward Swimclear Cartridge filter model ST1152 1.5V 1A
    A. O. Smith Pump 2.2HP 3450RPM (runs 5hrs/day)
    Vacuum model BY06-09 3/4HP 3450RPM (runs 2hrs/day)
    Manteca, Ca.

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