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    Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    I have been using Pristine Blue for the past 3 years and after spending some time on here reading about the BBB method I am convinced its time to convert. P.S- I feel kinda dumb for being lured to the darkside!(PB)

    Ok! I tested my water this evening and here are the results. I have an old kit so I couldn't test for CH or CYA. I ordered the Taylor K-2006 kit to solve that problem!

    TC-0
    FC-0
    PH-8.2
    TA-60
    CH-N/A
    CYA-N/A

    COPPER- .5

    Where is the best place to start this process?
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    Isn't the only difference with that system that you add copper? If so, just stop adding copper and maintain the recommended levels as described in pool school.

    You could replace water to lower the copper level in the pool. And in fact, if your CYA is too high, then you will need to replace water anyway.

    So, I would suggest at this point you just do a lot of reading in Pool School while waiting for the test kit to arrive.

    How does the water look?
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Yes, I believe that's the only difference! Well, besides a lot of money being extracted from my hip pocket!

    The water is a dark green color. Should I start by shocking the pool or do I need to get my PH right before I shock it? We are just now trying to open it.

    Also, it sat uncovered over the winter and we believe we have all of the leaves out but we can't see the bottom so can't be 100% sure.

    Here's a pic of the pool.
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Yes, go ahead and fix the Ph now. Hard to start shock process without having some idea of your CYA level, and as mentioned, you may need to drain water anyway. Look for a bleach sale in the mean time! You're gonna need just a little bit!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyp
    Yes, go ahead and fix the Ph now. Hard to start shock process without having some idea of your CYA level, and as mentioned, you may need to drain water anyway. Look for a bleach sale in the mean time! You're gonna need just a little bit!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    It brings a tear to my eye seeing a beautiful pool like that in that condition......Mike
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Was CYA not tested or is it zero?

    Break out the leaf rake and start dragging.



    You can do that while the acid is working on the pH. When your arms and back need a rest, fumble around measuring and filling the CYA socks and get them hung in front of a return. When pH is good, hit it with bleach. You won't be testing anything but FC & CC for a while, so be sure the pH is good before you start.

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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320
    Was CYA not tested or is it zero?

    Break out the leaf rake and start dragging.



    You can do that while the acid is working on the pH. When your arms and back need a rest, fumble around measuring and filling the CYA socks and get them hung in front of a return. When pH is good, hit it with bleach. You won't be testing anything but FC & CC for a while, so be sure the pH is good before you start.

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    CYA wasn't tested. The kit I have is older and doesn't have that test in it but I've ordered one that does.

    Been raking for about a week and all I pull up now is silty kinda stuff. I'm assuming its mostly dirt and algae.

    I'm gonna wait till I get the new kit before I start messing with the CYA. Don't want to mess anything up!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by fast1971chevelle
    It brings a tear to my eye seeing a beautiful pool like that in that condition......Mike
    I know! Mine too, but I'm gonna get it turned around and I will continue to post pics as I go! Hopefully, we will be smiling about it again soon!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    I got my Ph adjusted down to 7.2. I think I'm ready to start the shock process but, I've got a few questions.

    1) Do I need to have my CYA adjusted before I start the shock process?

    2) Am I wasting time and money if I try to shock without knowing the CYA level?

    3) Can I run my automatic cleaner during the shock process?


    Thanks in advance for the help!!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Okiesummer
    I got my Ph adjusted down to 7.2. I think I'm ready to start the shock process but, I've got a few questions.

    1) Do I need to have my CYA adjusted before I start the shock process?

    If you have your K-2006, yes. Test your CYA, and if it is high >50, drain and refill according to the poolcalculator.com

    2) Am I wasting time and money if I try to shock without knowing the CYA level?

    You could easily waste some money, and put your liner at risk by overclorinating.

    3) Can I run my automatic cleaner during the shock process?

    You can, and it might pick up some of the organics that you may have missed. But without being able to see it, how will you know it's still working? I recommend you wait until you kill the algae and the pool starts clearing.

    Thanks in advance for the help!!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_R
    Quote Originally Posted by Okiesummer
    I got my Ph adjusted down to 7.2. I think I'm ready to start the shock process but, I've got a few questions.

    1) Do I need to have my CYA adjusted before I start the shock process?

    If you have your K-2006, yes. Test your CYA, and if it is high >50, drain and refill according to the poolcalculator.com

    2) Am I wasting time and money if I try to shock without knowing the CYA level?

    You could easily waste some money, and put your liner at risk by overclorinating.

    3) Can I run my automatic cleaner during the shock process?

    You can, and it might pick up some of the organics that you may have missed. But without being able to see it, how will you know it's still working? I recommend you wait until you kill the algae and the pool starts clearing.

    Thanks in advance for the help!!
    Thanks Charlie R!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    So post a full set of numbers when you get your kit. If the CYA is high, then a partial drain/refill would be the first thing to do since it will make any shocking use a lot less chlorine and you don't want the CYA to be high long-term anyway. A partial drain/refill will also lower the copper level to will help to prevent staining. Because you have copper in the pool, you'll want to make sure to significantly lower your pH before shocking with a hypochlorite source of chlorine (chlorinating liquid, bleach, Cal-Hypo, lithium hypochlorite). Lower the pH to at least 7.2 (but not below 7.0) before shocking.
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Ok! Got my new test kit today and here are the numbers!

    FC- .5
    CC- 1.5
    PH- 7.0
    TA- 70
    CH- 300
    CYA- 0

    Is my next step to raise my CYA to the proper level and then do the shock process?
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Raise CYA to around 30 to 40 for now. That is about the ideal level for shocking. You can start shocking right away, especially at night, but will lose a fair bit of chlorine to sunlight during the day until you get some CYA in the water.
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    You got it.

    Have you ever had CYA in the pool? Maybe add 20ppm and start the shock process.
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion
    Raise CYA to around 30 to 40 for now. That is about the ideal level for shocking. You can start shocking right away, especially at night, but will lose a fair bit of chlorine to sunlight during the day until you get some CYA in the water.
    Alright! I'm all over it! Thanks for the help!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle
    You got it.

    Have you ever had CYA in the pool? Maybe add 20ppm and start the shock process.
    I've never been able to check it before so I dont really know. I do know that I've never added stabilizer....ever since I've owned the pool!

    Thanks for the help!
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Any pucks or Dichlor? Just do not what you to add too much.
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    Re: Convinced!! Now to convert from Pristine Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle
    Any pucks or Dichlor? Just do not what you to add too much.
    Nope! I've never added or used either of those!
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