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    ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    So I’ve had several people sending private messages about how I like the ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT coating on our pool. Since there seems to be so little information out there on people’s opinions or experiences with the product, I thought that I would start a long term review thread. I’ll try to update the thread on at least a quarterly basis and answer questions as they may arise. You can go to our original pool build thread here.

    What is Aquabright? In short it is a thermo plastic resin that is sprayed over the plaster coating of a gunite pool.
    1. Gunite goes in.
    2. Plaster covers Gunite
    3. 2 coats of sticky resin are rolled on the entire plaster surface with paint rollers. (This helps the first coat of aqua bright adhere)
    4. 2-3 coats of aqua bright are sprayed onto the coating. It melts into one solid coating over the entire pool.
    5. Fill the pool, balance water, swim immediately. No need for start up process.

    Here are some of the benefits from the company aquabright website

    Plaster has its own set of issues, in the form of a long and complicated start-up process (Hot-Start), as well as staining, shrinking, and cracking problems. aquaBRIGHT was scientifically developed to present a solution to these aquatic finish problems. The long-lasting thermo-polymer finish, aquaBRIGHT is the wave of the future.
    Color Uniformity
    Compared to colored masonry finishes, aquaBRIGHT has a more uniform color across the entire swimming pool and as the pool ages, the installation of an aquaBRIGHT finish will not "mottle" or fade in larger blotchy clouds.
    No Hot Start
    Looking for a colored aquatic finish? Colored masonry coatings typically require a two week start up process called a "Low alkalinity burn" or a "Hot Start." The process normally involves your pool company pouring muriatic acid into your pool to burn the leaching calcium off the curing masonry. Since aquaBRIGHT is a durable, plastic finish, it does not require any caustic or complicated start up process after installation. We call our start up process "Balance and Swim".
    Chemical Resistant, pH neutral
    When did owning a pool mean that you need a degree in chemistry? Old timers used to treat their pools with two things chlorine and muriatic acid. Unlike masonry finishes, the non-porous, smooth and pH neutral aquaBRIGHT finish won't counter balance with your swimming pool's water chemistry. We're not saying with the installation of aquaBRIGHT that you'll only need chlorine and acid, but due to the nature of plastic, you'll spend much less time balancing your water chemistry and more time enjoying your pool with your family.


    Here are two videos of the application process in our pool



    9,000 gallon, IG, Ecofinish AquaBright pool finish, Jandy CV340 CF, VS Jandy 2hp e-Pump , Nature2 Fusion Soft SWG, Polaris 380 cleaner w/booster pump, Taylor 2006

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    Why did I choose aquaBright?
    I was primarily interested in the long term benefits of this final finish vs a traditional plaster coating. The big problem with the traditional plaster is that it is chemically active with your pool water. If you don't keep your chemistry correct you can damage the plaster. Plaster generally has a life span of a decade give or take some years.

    Since the aquaBright is an inert plastic resin it is not chemically active with the pool water and it has a longer expected lifespan. It has a 100% warranty in years 1-5 and then gradually prorated to 50% by year 10. Lifespan should be much longer that a plaster pool. My personal opinion is that is should easily surpass the lifespan of traditional plaster or fiberglass pools.

    Would I choose it again?
    Granted it is only about 6 months old at this point and no problems have arisen. Yes absolutely I would choose it again.

    Would you do anything different?
    Yes.
    The resin starts out as a powder. When it first goes on its pretty rough. The longer they apply the heat, the more the individual pieces of resin melt together and the smoother the finish becomes. Generally they will heat the material up enough until the finish becomes like an orange peel. They gave us the option of leaving the beach entry/sun deck a little rougher than the rest of the pool. I choose to do this thinking it would help prevent slips in that area. In hindsight I would have made the beach entry the same smoothness as the rest of the pool. The orange peel finish has plenty of grip to it. The rougher beach entry feels just fine on feet, but if you lay on it, its a little rough for belly or back.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Thank you for starting this thread! Independent and unbiased reviews help everyone out. It certainly is an interesting product and we'll all be interested in seeing how it performs in your pool.

    Best wishes.
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    Maintenance/upkeep.

    I have found maintenance on this pool to be very easy. I think the combination of a Salt Water Generator with the inert pool finish is what makes is so easy. When it was brand new I was testing every few days and I've gradually expanded out my testing to about once every two weeks. The water chemistry is just that stable. I think in large part to the inactivity of the finish with the pool water.

    Pool fill date: Feb 27, 2016
    It took a few weeks to get the chemistry where I wanted it. Since then this is what I've added.

    3/26/2016 Added 4 ounces of Muriatic Acid
    5/27/2016 Added 1 lb. CYA
    7/3/2016 Added 6 ounces of Muriatic Acid and added 4 lb. CYA (I think the summer heat really did a number on my CYA)
    8/14/2016 Added 2 pints of Muriatic Acid

    Thats it. Most of my changes are to the SWG production. I haven't had a difficult time keeping enough Free Chlorine, the problem has be keep the FC from getting too high. Its been hard to find the happy medium where it stabilize at 4-5 ppm



    Total chemicals added since Start up balancing was complete (5 months time)

    Muriatic Acid: 5 cups
    CYA: 5 lbs
    9,000 gallon, IG, Ecofinish AquaBright pool finish, Jandy CV340 CF, VS Jandy 2hp e-Pump , Nature2 Fusion Soft SWG, Polaris 380 cleaner w/booster pump, Taylor 2006

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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Those chemical additions are incredible...5 cups of acid in 6 months?! Granted your pool volume is relatively low but I add over 5 cups of acid in 2 days.

    Thanks for the info. Please keep us posted.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    We occasionally read on TFP of folks who are having to repair their fiberglass pools. I wonder if this product could ever be used to refinish a fiberglass pool that might have damage?

    addendum: Ooops, just saw some videos on Youtube. This product looks amazing for all types of pool's refinishing!
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    It is actually used to repair new fiberglass pools that were cracked during transit or installation and is a great option for resurfacing. Several waterparks are also using EcoFinish products on their fiberglass waterslides because it withstands the constant abuse much better.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Just to share, I'm in the process of getting replaster quotes and the Aqua Bright approach is VERY intriguing to me. Yesterday the AB installer stopped by to survey our pool and I'm waiting to hear his final numbers to see how they compare with the replaster companies.

    If the price for the AB isn't outrageous, I'm probably going with that approach. While I usually shy away from something that is new, I really like the AB concept.

    I'll circle back to share with the group.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Quote Originally Posted by mrd5 View Post
    Just to share, I'm in the process of getting replaster quotes and the Aqua Bright approach is VERY intriguing to me. Yesterday the AB installer stopped by to survey our pool and I'm waiting to hear his final numbers to see how they compare with the replaster companies.

    If the price for the AB isn't outrageous, I'm probably going with that approach. While I usually shy away from something that is new, I really like the AB concept.

    I'll circle back to share with the group.
    -Mike
    Any update on the quote you got from the AB installer? Would be interested to know if you went that route or not.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    I've got one going this week. Here it is after the first coat of epoxy. It will be done tomorrow





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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Quote Originally Posted by bdavis466 View Post
    I've got one going this week. Here it is after the first coat of epoxy. It will be done tomorrow
    Video of you in nomex chonies with the flame-thrower going full-blast or IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Deal!
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    I think this is kind of what you are looking for... That's not my crack though, I only wear steel toe flip flops

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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Quote Originally Posted by bdavis466 View Post
    I think this is kind of what you are looking for... That's not my crack though!

    Sorry man, gotta have the crack and the flame-thrower...
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Nice. How does the price compare to replaster?
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Equal to or possibly less since you aren't paying to chip out and haul off the debris. It really is a great option for remodels.

    On new pools the pricing ends up being comparable to high end quartz and pebble finishes.

    Pricing is difficult to know for sure because it varies so much in different regions. Here in California, plaster is very cheap and some installers are applying pebble finishes for what just the AquaBright materials cost me. With that said, there are a lot of poor quality jobs since cost is a bigger factor than quality and longevity.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Thanks. If no chip out before the first epoxy coat, what prep work was done, acid wash?
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Acid wash, pressure wash, 2 coats of a specially formulated concrete epoxy and then the flame thrower of death comes out for a minimum of 3 passes of material.
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    Sorry Matt, my nomex chonies were in the laundry. Here is my best stinkbug impression though

    http://vid494.photobucket.com/albums...121246_001.mp4







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    I'll get a pic of the color matched drain covers. First ones ever done with AquaBright!
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    Re: ecoFINISH aquaBRIGHT longterm review

    LOVE the professional shoe-ware LOL In all seriousness I would think you need to at least wear long, fire gloves just in case you need to grab the metal part of the hose.

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