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Popped in new shoes, the old ones were too loose. Vac runs great! Thanks, people.

Thanks for your continued support/follow ups, Jim. Hayard Navigator vac, here...

Pressure at end of hose is ideal- right in the middle of the plunger between the min and the max. The vac dos not move. I feed up the flow with your help, but still, the vac dosnt move. How long do there Hayward vacs last? So many parts, who knows what it needs.......

That pool service is gonna get some feedback from me, not so happy.......

OK, I didnt think of that, I should place that psi tested at the end of the hoses...........

Wow, I never knew that! Glad you were able to pull up my past thread/picture! The cartridge is Hayward C2100 Star-clear plus (does that help identify the housing?). But if this is not the ideal size, why did the vac work great for 2 years (new 2 years ago) until now? Something that happened NOW...

Thanks, Jim! That is a great tip! Time to clean/spray the pleated filter, and then take some readings of psi! (Filter is kinda new- about 5-6 months. The pool service is supposed to clean it once a month, they say).

People, I installed a new psi guage and psi on the cartridge filter housing shows 30 psi with pump running. Thing is, the pressure at the inlet pipe on the pool wall barely registers "MINIMUM" level (plunger type plastic guage). Pool Vac doesnt even move. I even shut of the pool floor drain...

It took me a while (pump/pool stayed with no pumping for 2 weeks) but I finally found the culprit. It was the tint black plug at the base of the basket! I never figured this could be it! Apparently it kept sucking air through that old/rotted plug and thats why it would lose the initial blast of...

Equipment/pump/filter/system is not lower than the pool. (I did check the one way valve, and it had minimal debris). Maybe I will brush soap bubbles onto the suction lines, to search for a leak (?). Good tip on not to snake.

There are no shut off valves for returns to the pool, just shut off valves (in photo) going into the pump. Intakes are full of water- no air as the water level is above the skimmer opening. There is only ONE skimmer. I am now becoming less optimistic, despite all the help from members here.

WEll, I got home in daylight today, and unscrewed the release valve at top of cartridge filter housing, and started pump, got the "air hissss". Then water started seeping out so I closed it. Pump ran , no luck. Same result. Then, I removed the cartridge pleated filter, and did itv again. No...

Thanks, Sande (and dura). Such good tips to follow through. We are getting close! I will try these steps Saturday, on my day of, and let your know. Unless I get home early this week, in which case I will try out sooner! Will send other photos if possible too.

Photo attached. Also, I noticed that when the pump is on and pressure apparently builds up the psi guage on the filter doesnt even rise, stays at zero.

Dang- forgot to take a photo during the daylight, sorry. But, I should have mentioned that when I start the pump right after screwing on the clear lid, pump is ON, one of the 2 jets emit bubbles/lots of air. The other does not. I have only 1 skimmer. On side/upper part of the pool.

Yes, pool is in a cage. Update- I made sure the basket was filled with water to prime, and started the pump. Immedietaly the pump sucked in water from the intake pipes, then the flow stopped after about 8-10 seconds. No more suction of water. So, I then unscrewed the strainer cover to the basket...

Thanks again. No, no weir door in my system. never had it in 25 years. I guess the installer never put one in(?).

Thanks, Aj. Will send a photo as soon as possible- raining right now, and getting dark. Meanwhile, what is a weir door?

people, Pump runs with a whining sound, and does not suck up the pool water from the intake tubes. I checked the check valve and no debris. I unscrewed the clear cap from the basket and filled it with water to prime it, in case that was the problem, but when turning the pump back on initially...

Right. I do buy online, not that expensive. I am pulling my hair out as to why my vac does not move. Maybe time to take the whole thing apart one more time, before I throw it out.

Thanks, good to know I didnt get the wrong shoes. So, yes, I did reach inside the wheel while suction/connected to hose, and the paddles of the wheeel are turning quite well. It further is mystifying. How different is this robot vs the vac?

If I need to buy new, which vac do you prefer?

Is it possible that I bought the wrong shoes? I bought shoes for the hayward vac. Dont remember if there are different shoe types for that vac(?).

Wow, here it is: https://www.hayward-pool.com/assets/documents/pools/pdf/manuals/PoolVac-Classic-XL-NavigatorPro.pdf I used that psi tool provided to measure the psi. It has a min/max line molded on it.

Good tip, I lost the original manual, but there has got to be an online version, maybe I can try to find it. Will let you know.......BUT, why did it work up to recently, with the psi's provided by the pump? I did try to vary the suction vac psi, up/down, with no effect........

This one here, Cwiggs. https://www.poolsupplyunlimited.com/pool/hayward-w32025adc-cleaner/44828p1?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&utm_term=%7Bquery%7D&gclid=CjwKCAjwlYCHBhAQEiwA4K21m98W5Yva_0L0lXoHZKXQO3pdF9jp2lSkDS5ouPuXPy5f8bFGLKJC1BoC0PYQAvD_BwE Not sure what you...

People, Hayward vac, few years old, so replaced the shoes and "flaps/wings". Checked pressure and it is in the mid of the min/max. When I hold the vac underwater near the surface and observe the shoes vibrate like thay should, also I place my hand at the suction orfice at bottom of vac and get...