Chlorine w/ clear comfort vs Bromine w/ In.Clear

IdahoSteven

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Jan 31, 2024
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Kamiah, ID
Hello all,
Here is my situation. I had an older Arctic tub when I lived near Seattle, it came with an In.Clear Bromine system and I loved it. Although it took quite a bit of bromine booster to get teh chemistry right upon refill, it was virtually manitenance free. Fast Forward to last year, I now live in Idaho (retired) and purchased a Bullfrog M9 (450 gal) tub. This tub comes with the ClearComfort AOP Chlorine management system. I also purchased a wellspring filtration filter and that particular tub comes with the @ ease system kit and SmartChlor cartridge. I have been running the chlorine system for about 6 months and while the water chemistry is great, I do have a bit of a chlorine smell. The ClearComfort website says that their system should have no more chlorine (or smell) than tap water and that is definitely not my experience. SO, I am considering switching to bromine, IF I can get the same performance and maintenance out of teh CLearComfort system as I did the In.Clear. My questions to the group are: 1) Can I run bromine through the ClearCOmfort system? 2) Will I get the same Perf and Maint out of that system with Chlorine? 2) If I do run a bromine base, will I have to supplement with bromine tablets ( which I do not have to do with the in.clear system 3) if Bromine does not work, how many ppm of chlorine should be targeting with the AOP system? 4) AM I thinking about this correctly. I will appreciate any and all input and feedback. Thanks Steven
 
Not sure about these systems (calling @phonedave )
But you should never use the same feeder for different sanitizers as there can be residual chemicals in the feeder & an explosion 💥 can occur.
We don’t recommend the frog 🐸 either.
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We recommend that you follow one of these guides depending upon the sanitizer of your choice 👇
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What you’re currently describing (chlorine smell) is indicative of inadequate sanitizer.
How are you currently testing the water & what are your latest test results?
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My understanding is that the ClearComfort AOP system can be thought of as a replacement for an Ozone system - sort of.

An AOP system stands for Advanced Oxidation Process. It uses hydroxyl radicals to oxidize waste. Instead of using Ozone (O3) they use Hydroxyls (OH-). Where is supposedly shines is that while O3 is an oxidizer, it also degrades Free Chlorine. OH- on the other hand is an oxidizer, but plays nicely with free chlorine.

When you smell chlorine, you are smelling Combined Chloramines (CCs) - the result of chlorine reacting with organics and breaking them down. Oxidizers (such as Ozone or OH- ) then oxidize and remove those CCs., thus removing the smell (So does keeping your tub clean, letting it offgas, and keeping your Chlorine and CYA numbers in balance)

In theory the OH- system also helps you to use less Chlorine than a Ozone generator will, because it does not degrade the CL

A key takeaway is that Oxidation systems are not sanitizers. You still need a bromine or chlorine system to sanitize the tub. The @ease system is a Frog system, and is technically a chlorine system. Most people on this site recommend you stay away from the Frog system for a variety of reasons - mainly it is a "different" chlorine, and expensive.

To answer your questions (as best I can)

1) Can I run bromine through the ClearCOmfort system? I have no idea the impact that OH- will have on Bromine. I suspect it will not be an issue, but I am not sure.

2) Will I get the same Perf and Maint out of that system with Chlorine? Again, the OH- is an oxidizer, and the Bromine or Chlorine is a sanitizer. As long as one does not degrade the other, then there should be no impacts

2) If I do run a bromine base, will I have to supplement with bromine tablets ( which I do not have to do with the in.clear system? If you decide to go with a bromine tub, then you need to do all the bromine stuff. Build a bank and use chlorine to refresh it.

3) if Bromine does not work, how many ppm of chlorine should be targeting with the AOP system? This is not the correct question. You chlorine levels need to be in balance with your CYA levels. The AOP is just an add on and does its own thing regardless of the amount of CL present.

4) AM I thinking about this correctly. I will appreciate any and all input and feedback. Thanks Steven - I would not use bromine. If I were you, I would get rid of the @ease, get a good test kit, purge the tub with AhhSome, and then get my CYA around 30 and my CL around using bleach. I would then let the AOP system do its supposed thing.