Yet another Houston Pool Build

okpodo

New member
May 10, 2022
1
Houston
Hello TFP community,

After a few months of backing-and-forthing over layout etc. I'm just about ready to put ink to paper and sign the contract on this pool. After an additional few weeks of poring over the good advice found here I think I've got a solid build lined up but humbly request the knowledgably folks here to provide a cold eyes review for anything I may yet be overlooking or should question.

I'll be sure to post the construction photos as things start to move along. The builder estimates 8 weeks completion from day of excavation.

Pool Specifications Shape:
Geometric ~34’ Long X 16’ Wide
Linear Perimeter Feet: ~101
Water Type: Saltwater
Gallons: ~13,179 (Actual computer-generated calculation based on the
envelope of the pool and taking into consideration displacement for features
such as spas, tanning ledges, steps, benches, etc.)
Square Feet Surface Area: ~511 Sq. Ft.
Depth: ~3’6” X 6”

Steel Specs:
Beam – 1⁄2” #4 Rebar 4 Bar Box Beam
Grid – 3/8” #3 Rebar on 8” Centers
Dam Walls – All Double Curtain Steel all 3/8” #3 Rebar on 8” Centers
Gunite – 7 to 1 Sand to Cement ratio / Minimum 12” gunite beam - Minimum 6”
Walls & Floors / Approx. 7” Cover
** Lifetime Warranty on Gunite Shell Including Beam through Gunite
Contractor – Non-Transferrable**
• Homeowner to water cure gunite shell twice daily, for one week after
gunite completion
Pier & Beam Under Pool – N/A

Pool Features:
12” H X 18” H X 12” H X 27’ L – Raised Water Feature Wall w/ (3) 16” Travertine Scuppers:
Raised portion will be faced and topped with high-end materials (e.g. split face
travertine facing and travertine paver topping). We have included an
allowance of $9.00 per Sq. Ft. for facing and $8.00 per Lin. Ft. for topping
material. If material chosen is costlier than this, customer will be responsible
for the difference.
~7’ X 12’ Tanning Ledge w/ (2) Bubblers & (1) Umbrella Anchor at pool entrance
(2) ~4’ quarter moon benches in deep end

Spa Specifications Shape:
Square ~7’ X 7’ Inside Dimension
Linear Perimeter Feet: ~28
Gallons: ~621
Square Feet Surface Area: ~49 Sq. Ft.
Depth: ~3’6”
~12” Raised Wall

Spa Features & Finishes:
Single level bench seating 20” (Split level bench seating available upon customer request, at no additional charge)
No Step In (12” Step in available upon customer request, at no additional charge)
Spillover Included ~12’ – Std. Waterline Tile finish
Raised outside wall will be faced and with high-end materials (e.g. split face
travertine). We have included an allowance of $9.00 per Sq. Ft. for facing. If
material chosen is costlier than this, customer will be responsible for the
difference.
(8) Jets
(1) Special Spa Return

Pool Coping & Pool/Spa Waterline Tile Specifications:
Coping – 24” Travertine. Coping is typically high-end travertine material (e.g.
Ivory, Noce, Autumn). We have included an allowance of $8.00 per Lin. Ft. for
pool coping material, and $8.00 per Sq. Ft. for spa coping material. If material
chosen is costlier than this, customer will be responsible for the difference.
Waterline Tile – Standard Porcelain Ceramic (Frost-proof)
(Tile allowance $7.00/ Sq. Ft.)
Accent Tile – If Requested (standard frost proof tile)
Trim Tile – +$4/linear ft. (per 1” row)
Colored Grout to match

Decking Specifications:
New Decking - ~875 Sq. Ft. Spray Deck Concrete
Topping Existing Areas – Yes ~350 Sq. Ft. of existing covered patio concrete
Includes 36” walkway from pool deck to side fence gate as shown in spec sheet – brushed concrete finish
Deck Finish Color – Yes/TBD
Specs – Rebar on 16” centers. Average @ 4” thickness
Deck Features Drainage Details – Standard channel drain or area drainage (depending on
decking configuration) w/ gutter downspout connections as necessary
Misc. – N/A

Interior Finish Details:
Wet Edge Signature Matrix Pebble - Category 1 Included (Plaster Options and Associated Cost Adjustments Below)

Equipment Specifications:
(3 yr. Warranty for Pentair
Equipment provided through
Manufacturer)

Pool Automation System – Pentair Easy Touch 8 PS w/ ScreenLogic Smart
Phone Application Controls
Standard Control System – N/A
Filter System – Pentair Clean & Clear 520 Plus Cartridge
Main Pool & Spa Pump – Pentair Intelliflo VSF 3HP Variable Speed Pump
Water Feature Pump – Pentair SuperFlo 1.5 HP VST Pump (Bubblers & Wall
Features)
Additional Pumps – N/A
Sanitation System – Pentair IC40 Salt Cell Generator
Purifier System – N/A
Pool Lights – (2) Pentair IntelliBrite Color 5g LED 26 Watt
Spa Light – (1) Pentair IntelliBrite Color 5g LED 26 Watt
Additional Lights – N/A
Remote Control – N/A w/ ScreenLogic Phone App Control
Heater – Pentair Max E Therm 400K BTU NG
Chiller – N/A
Spa Air Blower – 2 HP Spa Blower
AutoFill - SuperPro Auto-Fill

Plumbing & Electrical Details:
• 2-1/2” Spa Suction, 2” Pool Suction
• All separate lines are 2”
• Sch 40 PVC Pipe for all major pool/spa plumbing
• 2-1/2” Spa returns to first “T”, 2” Pool returns to first “T”
• Hi-Temp Unions on all Pump Connections
• Pentair Valves 263026 & 263027
• Backwash Line to P-Trap @ Sanitary Sewer Installed (Where
Required)
• Dual Surface Skimmers for optimum surface water circulation
• Dual Anti-Vortex/Anti-Entrapment Drains for Pool/Spa/Water Feature
• Circulation – (6) top returns, (2) bottom returns, (2) returns in tanning
ledge (bubblers), (8) spa returns, (1) special spa return

Gas & Electric Runs:
• 30 linear feet gas run, meter to heater


Pool Cleaner:
Pentair Prowler 920 IG Robotic Cleaner

Pool Maintenance Equipment:
1 – Telescopic pole
1 – 12” Deluxe Vacuum Head
1 – 50’ Deluxe Vacuum Hose
1 – Heavy Duty 18” Nylon Wall Brush
1 – Deluxe Deep Net Skimmer Net
1 – Water Test Strips

Pool Startup and Chemical:
7 Day Startup Included
Other Complete clean-up of pool site, trash removal included
Sand & Re-Sod of Disturbed Areas
 

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Jimrahbe

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Jul 7, 2014
27,032
Bedford, TX
ok,

I suggest that you go with two IntelliFlo pumps and dump the SuperFlo VS.

There is nothing wrong with the SuperFlo VS, but the IntelliFlo would be a better choice and in the future if the main pump failed you could move the water feature pump over and keep the pool running. Would cost a little more, but you will get better performance from the IntelliFlo and have a spare pump could be a life saver in the future.

If I were building a new pool today it would have the new IntelliCenter automation. Newer and better for just about the same cost as the older EasyTouch plus ScreenLogic. That said, I'm sure the older EasyTouch will work just fine.

Thanks

Jim R.
 
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gingrbredman

Gold Supporter
Jun 10, 2020
688
Chicagoland
Pool Size
11200
Surface
Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
That is a very detailed list, and cool pictures.

A couple of things...

Pentair Easy Touch 8 PS w/ ScreenLogic Smart
@Jimrahbe already mentioned it, but will second his motion. Building a pool today with Pentair equipment should be done with the Intellicenter. I know it is hard to get, but if you are just going to get started, your builder should be able to get the right one before you need it. The price should be roughly the same, and already includes the "screen logic" add on you need with the easy touch. No reason to put in the older tech when the newest tech can be done for about the same cost and work.

Pentair IC40 Salt Cell Generator
Very excellent. And it is over 2x the volume of your pool so that should give you nice chlorine for a long time. Usually, Texas builders scoff at a SWCG, you found a rare one here, or pushed for it, but either way, you'll be very happy with it.

Pool Lights – (2) Pentair IntelliBrite Color 5g LED 26 Watt
Spa Light – (1) Pentair IntelliBrite Color 5g LED 26 Watt
So the Intellibrite line of lights are also Pentair's older model. Their newest light is the Microbrite, should last longer, and is very easy to replace when, not if, but when it is needed. All pool lights die at some point, but the Microbrite has a better reliability and would be a great fit.

Pool Maintenance Equipment:
1 – Telescopic pole
1 – 12” Deluxe Vacuum Head
1 – 50’ Deluxe Vacuum Hose
1 – Heavy Duty 18” Nylon Wall Brush
1 – Deluxe Deep Net Skimmer Net
1 – Water Test Strips
Every builder includes the "maintenance" tools, which are average at best, but the one thing you will want to dispose of quickly is those test strips. If you want to hang out here after your build and really learn and make your pool truly Trouble Free, that is the first thing to go. The pole, vacuum head, hose, etc. can get some use before you ultimately replace them with better, but not those stupid strips!
 

guinness

Well-known member
May 3, 2019
844
California
Pool Size
23200
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
As Jim already mentioned the Intelliflo pump would be best. However if availability is a problem the Whisperflo VST is an option too.



Also request that they add unions for both pumps to make replacement easier.