Who uses a portable pump for spring clean ups? Tell me about your set up. I use a 3/4hp/1.0sf Hayward super pump. I feel like i need more power!

Kevo5oh

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Apr 21, 2019
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The 3/4 hp pulls 11.0 amps. I would love to jump to a 1 1/2 hp but think it pulls like 18.6 amps and am afraid I would start tripping breakers?! Maybe my only options are a 1.0hp? Think they pull like 15.0 amps. Any suggestions?
 

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cfherrman

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May 10, 2017
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Hays, Kansas
Why have 2 pumps? One two speed pump that you can wire in 220v would be better

I use my 1/2 hp and just scrub a 2' circle and leave it there 15 mins. I take my time and take about a month to open. Still too cold to swim now
 

setsailsoon

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Kevo,

Welcome to TFP. I think a little more information would help. What kind of clean up work are you doing? Is it for your pool, if so what size and shape? Seems like your getting close to the practical limit with extension cords and breakers. Next step up would be a gas powered utrility/trash pump. 2hp start around $200.

I hope this helps.

Chris
 

Kevo5oh

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Apr 21, 2019
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Kevo,

Welcome to TFP. I think a little more information would help. What kind of clean up work are you doing? Is it for your pool, if so what size and shape? Seems like your getting close to the practical limit with extension cords and breakers. Next step up would be a gas powered utrility/trash pump. 2hp start around $200.

I hope this helps.

Chris
Hey chris, I do service work. Many clean ups a year. Years ago I had an older 3/4 hp super pump that seemed to have more power than this newer model? Maybe this one pulls less amps..can't read the older ones label anymore. I use 12 gauge ext cords from customers outlet to my pump. I would step up to the question 1 1/2 hp but pulls 18.6 @115v. Would think max outside breaker would be 20 amps..cutting it close. I think a 1 hp that pulls 15 amps may be my only option for more power and keeping it lighter and portable. I'm no electrician but don't think I can wire something 220v and make portable
 

setsailsoon

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Hey chris, I do service work. Many clean ups a year. Years ago I had an older 3/4 hp super pump that seemed to have more power than this newer model? Maybe this one pulls less amps..can't read the older ones label anymore. I use 12 gauge ext cords from customers outlet to my pump. I would step up to the question 1 1/2 hp but pulls 18.6 @115v. Would think max outside breaker would be 20 amps..cutting it close. I think a 1 hp that pulls 15 amps may be my only option for more power and keeping it lighter and portable. I'm no electrician but don't think I can wire something 220v and make portable
Yep, I agree. If you really do need that much power then a gas powered pump is more practical. But if your old one worked and was only 3/4 hp then I'd try to figure out what's wrong with your new pump. We have some great pump experts here so if you can give us a little more information to go on like discharge pressure and model numbers etc.

Chris
 

cfherrman

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Hp is just telling you how much energy is there, not how the engery is being uses, you can have a pump all volume and no pressure, and one all pressure and no volume, and everything in between.
 
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Kevo5oh

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Cool you got me curious, do you bring your own filter too?
No sir would just be to much extra to drag out/around. I just waste the water out with the debris. Much like setting multi port to waste bit no risk of clogging skimmer line!..been there done that! Then ya gotta drag out the cyclone to blow out the line ugh!
 

Kevo5oh

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Yep, I agree. If you really do need that much power then a gas powered pump is more practical. But if your old one worked and was only 3/4 hp then I'd try to figure out what's wrong with your new pump. We have some great pump experts here so if you can give us a little more information to go on like discharge pressure and model numbers etc.

Chris
Hey chris I don't think there's really anything wrong with my new pump I think it just pulls less amps than the older one did. Less amps= less power right? Am I thinking right?
 

Kevo5oh

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Are any of you guys tech/service guys? If so do you do customer spring clean ups? If you do what are you guys using? I've actually even thought about the riptide set up but pricey and not sure how much power they have?
 

cfherrman

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May 10, 2017
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Less amps is less gross power, there will be a different amount of net power depending on the motor efficiency. If you have a lower hp impeller the motor will draw less amps then rated for.
 
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ajw22

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That seems to be a common cleaning setup. Below is what my cleaning guy uses.

I think more HP will just suck lots more water quickly and dump more water out of the pool without cleaning faster.


 

JamesW

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That pump should be more than enough power. If anything, you should have to restrict the output.

Are you sure that the voltage selector plug is set to 120?

Check the impeller to make sure that it's not clogged.

Is the basket clean and not cracked?

Sometimes the basket can float and debris can get in the impeller. Try keeping a medium sized rock in the basket to hold it down.

Does the pump get full prime and sound like it's running correctly?
 
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setsailsoon

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Hey chris I don't think there's really anything wrong with my new pump I think it just pulls less amps than the older one did. Less amps= less power right? Am I thinking right?
Everything else being equal, yes. Voltage and pump efficiency can have a big impact.
 
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Kevo5oh

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That pump should be more than enough power. If anything, you should have to restrict the output.

Are you sure that the voltage selector plug is set to 120?

Check the impeller to make sure that it's not clogged.

Is the basket clean and not cracked?

Sometimes the basket can float and debris can get in the impeller. Try keeping a medium sized rock in the basket to hold it down.

Does the pump get full prime and sound like it's running correctly?
Hey James,

Yes pump is set to 115 when I wired it.

I will crack it open and check the impeller. Haven't in awhile...I do sometimes do vac out on concrete/rocks after work has been completed.

Basket I keep clean..not cracked.

Full prime..no air bubbles...runs good.

Maybe I'll just try a super pump 1hp maybe it will have more stronger suction?
 

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