White Stuff Info. Liquidator users please reply.

Bama Rambler

Mod Squad
TFP Expert
LifeTime Supporter
Jun 22, 2009
23,036
SouthWest Alabama
Trying to get some data to see if we can figure out what contributes to the formation of White Stuff.
1. How long have you been using the LQ?
2. List your equipment.
  • Pump?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Filter?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Norm filter press?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Number of skimmers?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Number of returns?[/*:m:1k0299su]
3. Do you have White Stuff?
4. If so does it affect the performance of your LQ?
5. How often do you have to clean it out?
6. What parts of the unit are affected by the WS?
  • “In” float valve?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “Out” float valve?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Flow meter?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Flow control valve?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “In check valve?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “Out check valve?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “In” tubing?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “Out” tubing?[/*:m:1k0299su]
7. Have you done the 3/8” tubing upgrade?
  • “In” side only?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • “Out” side only?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Both “In” & “Out” sides?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Part of “In” side?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Which parts?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Part of “Out” side?[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Which parts?[/*:m:1k0299su]
8. How many cc/min (number on flow meter) do you normally run?
9. What size LQ do you have? (4 gal or 8 gal)
10. Do you have a device that aerates the water on a regular basis? (fountain, water fall, etc.)
11. A full set of test results?
  • pH[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • FC[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • CC[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • TA[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • CH[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • CYA[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Salt[/*:m:1k0299su]
  • Borates[/*:m:1k0299su]

12. Anything else you feel is pertinant to the situation.
 

coloeb

Well-known member
Mar 13, 2009
226
Just a question, Has anyone tried to have the white stuff tested to see what its made of? That could go a long way in discovering how and why it shows up.
 

Bama Rambler

Mod Squad
TFP Expert
LifeTime Supporter
Jun 22, 2009
23,036
SouthWest Alabama
I'll start.
Trying to get some data to see if we can figure out what contributes to the formation of White Stuff.
1. How long have you been using the LQ? 1 year
2. List your equipment. 24' X 52" round AGP, Sand Filter, 1.5 hp pump.
  • Pump? 1.5 hp Dynamo[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Filter? Pentair Sand Dollar[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Norm filter press? 11 PSI[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Number of skimmers? 1[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Number of returns? 1[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
3. Do you have White Stuff? Yes, Slightly
4. If so does it affect the performance of your LQ? No
5. How often do you have to clean it out? Haven't
6. What parts of the unit are affected by the WS? "Out" tubing only
  • “In” float valve?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “Out” float valve?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Flow meter?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Flow control valve?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “In check valve?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “Out check valve?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “In” tubing?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “Out” tubing?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
7. Have you done the 3/8” tubing upgrade? Yes, Both In & Out sides
  • “In” side only?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • “Out” side only?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Both “In” & “Out” sides?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Part of “In” side?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Which parts?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Part of “Out” side?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Which parts?[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
8. How many cc/min (number on flow meter) do you normally run? 2.5
9. What size LQ do you have? (4 gal or 8 gal) 8 Gallon
10. Do you have a device that aerates the water on a regular basis? (fountain, water fall, etc.) No.
11. A full set of test results?
  • pH 7.5 rock solid[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • FC 5-8ppm[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • CC zero[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • TA 80[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • CH 160[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • CYA 55[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Salt none added but guessing ~ 500ppm from chlorine additions[/*:m:3f9qyvae]
  • Borates None added but probably about 15[/*:m:3f9qyvae]

12. Anything else you feel is pertinent to the situation.
 

jwfrank

Bronze Supporter
LifeTime Supporter
Oct 14, 2008
55
Todi, Umbria, Italy
I started using Liquidator last year with total success, and no WS. This year I upgraded to 3/8" line and had WS from the first fill of chlorine. i was devastated. Besides the 3/8* line, what was different? Just before the fill, I cleaned the LQ inside with vinegar, something I use to get rid of calcium build up. (The sides were "crusty" and I thought it was a calcium buildup) Vinegar worked fine and I rinsed well. But the fill of chlorine (12.5%) immediately created a ton of WS at the bottom and I had floating "flakes" throughout the water

I let the chlorine in LQ get used up; I siphoned out all the WS at the bottom, and refilled with chlorine from a new jug. And.... no problem with WS

Can some chlorine batches contain a "pollutant"? Was the WS a result of the residue of vinegar even though I rinsed the LQ well, I thought.

The plastic tubes seem free of WS except AFTER the flow meter where I notice some whiteness. I notice also that the tube leading from the flow meter is half air, half water. This is strange and would indicate some air coming into flow meter from outside, but I have no leaks

All this is submitted in answer to number 12 question: anything else pertinent

Good luck with your investigation. (Wasnt there a long chain of info on WS from last year?)
 

Big Thunder

Well-known member
Apr 29, 2009
65
1. How long have you been using the LQ? 1 month
2. List your equipment.

1. Pump? 1hp Pentair Challenger
2. Filter? Pentair Triton II 60 sand
3. Norm filter press? 12 psi
4. Number of skimmers? 1
5. Number of returns? 3

3. Do you have White Stuff? No
4. If so does it affect the performance of your LQ?
5. How often do you have to clean it out?
6. What parts of the unit are affected by the WS?

1. “In” float valve?
2. “Out” float valve?
3. Flow meter?
4. Flow control valve?
5. “In check valve?
6. “Out check valve?
7. “In” tubing?
8. “Out” tubing?

7. Have you done the 3/8” tubing upgrade? Yes

1. “In” side only?
2. “Out” side only?
3. Both “In” & “Out” sides? BOTH
4. Part of “In” side?
5. Which parts?
6. Part of “Out” side?
7. Which parts?

8. How many cc/min (number on flow meter) do you normally run? 2.5
9. What size LQ do you have? (4 gal or 8 gal) 8 gal
10. Do you have a device that aerates the water on a regular basis? (fountain, water fall, etc.) No
11. A full set of test results?

1. pH 7.5
2. FC 3.0
3. CC 0.0
4. TA 70
5. CH 300
6. CYA 40
7. Salt 0
8. Borates 50 ppm
 

Miranda

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2008
161
Northeast Florida
Trying to get some data to see if we can figure out what contributes to the formation of White Stuff.
1. How long have you been using the LQ? 3 years
2. List your equipment.

Pump?Hayward Powerflo Matrix Dual Speed 1 1/2 hp pump
Filter?, Hayward 24T sand filter w/zeolite
Norm filter press?10-15
Number of skimmers? 1
Number of returns? 2
3. Do you have White Stuff? No
4. If so does it affect the performance of your LQ?
5. How often do you have to clean it out? Once in 2 years, though not really needed
6. What parts of the unit are affected by the WS? None

7. Have you done the 3/8” tubing upgrade? Yes, recently, all parts

8. How many cc/min (number on flow meter) do you normally run? 2-4, varies
9. What size LQ do you have? 8 gal
10. Do you have a device that aerates the water on a regular basis? (fountain, water fall, etc.) No
11. A full set of test results?

pH 7.5
FC 3
CC 0
TA 80
CH 50
CYA 30
Salt 0
Borates 50

I didn't have the borates the first year, but no problem with WS ever. Pool is filled with softened water (household water softener). I do have white flakes that are part of the normal sediment that forms at the bottom of the tank and can be stirred up when adding CL, but I don't consider this the dreaded WS, because I have never had any form on any of the important parts. The original tubing turned opague/white, but no deposits forming, just lost it's clarity. AFter 3 years, my parts are all still clean, though I just replaced some parts for other reasons.
 

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