Variable speed pump won’t turn itself on after power blip

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
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St. Francisville, LA
Think I’ve made a big mistake. My pump went out and decided to replace it with a variable speed pump. Works great HOWEVER, when we have a storm and the power blips, pump goes off and throws an error code. It won’t restart itself even though it has power and I must press the button on it to resume its program. This has happened twice where I didn’t notice it until a couple days later and boom: algae bloom and I’m slamming the pool. I’m about ready to trash this and replace it with an old fashioned pump with no smarts or controls. Has anyone experienced this and found a work around? called the mfg and they tell me it’s working as designed. If so this is a very poor design! I’m at my wits end here.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Made by Hayward. Basically I need a work around. Does anyone make a flowmeter that would send alerts or alarm if no flow detected? Looking for any solution that would let me know if pump not running or no flow.
 

Jimrahbe

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Ralph,

Tell us the exact pump model number you have..

What specific button do you have to push to get it to come back on line?

Have you set up the pump to run a schedule or do you just turn it on manually?

Most pumps come right back on after a power outage, so it is odd.. Does the pump have the SVRS option??

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Thanks Jim. On vacation this week so can't check until I return. There are two preset programs (or you can setup your own). I run the preset that runs all day (the other runs 18 hrs). It's not tripping the breaker but when there is a power surge I'm thinking that the "dirty" return power is causing it to throw an error code rather than kick the program back on. I have to press the red "off" button and then press my program button to start it back. As I stated I called the support line and the rep said it is working as designed. If so, don't know if I could install some sort of line conditioner so it wouldn't send a surge to it when power is restored.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Ralph,

Tell us the exact pump model number you have..

What specific button do you have to push to get it to come back on line?

Have you set up the pump to run a schedule or do you just turn it on manually?

Most pumps come right back on after a power outage, so it is odd.. Does the pump have the SVRS option??

Thanks,

Jim R.
It is a Harris in ground variable speed pump.
Ralph,

Tell us the exact pump model number you have..

What specific button do you have to push to get it to come back on line?

Have you set up the pump to run a schedule or do you just turn it on manually?

Most pumps come right back on after a power outage, so it is odd.. Does the pump have the SVRS option??

Thanks,

Jim R.
Harris 72522 Proforce Unground variable speed 1.5 HP. Think it may actually be mfg by Hayward because it looks exactly like it. Customer support is very poor, techs are not knowledgeable about the product. It's sold on Amazon but dealer is actually Pool Supplies Superstore (dot com). I wired it into my old mechanical timer however the timer legs are off so it is only functioning as an on/off switch when I need it. Can't imagine this would play a part in problem but considering bypassing just to rule that out.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Here's one thing I just noticed. If I turn off the breaker off for about 30 seconds, and back on, the pump turns itself back on. However if I throw the breaker of and on quickly, it doesn't come back on and throws the error code/alarm.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Ralph,

I suspect that is probably the normal operation for your pump.

Thanks,

Jim R.
I think you're right. The bad thing is the mfg can't tell me what the error codes represent, and I can't find a logical work around. Seeing from other threads this problem isn't isolated to my Harris pump - apparently Hayward VS owners have experienced the same. BTW, Doheny sells this pump, and sells the exact same pump with the Doheny brand (not Harris). The control panel is made in China. Just fair warning for anyone else looking at this same pump. I think I will wind up going back to a single speed pump that is wired into my manual timer. Right as rain.
 

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The momentary power loss is causing the pump's computer to crash. One solution would be to add a UPS to the pump but needless to say, for a 220 volt device, that would be expensive.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
The momentary power loss is causing the pump's computer to crash. One solution would be to add a UPS to the pump but needless to say, for a 220 volt device, that would be expensive.
Thought about that, and turned off by the cost. I have heard about devices that have timers built in, and will hold a circuit closed for a pre-determined length of time to protect equipment before opening the circuit back up. This may be my answer. The pump turns itself back on if the power goes completely off for a minute or so, and then comes back on.
 

aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
109
St. Francisville, LA
Thought about that, and turned off by the cost. I have heard about devices that have timers built in, and will hold a circuit closed for a pre-determined length of time to protect equipment before opening the circuit back up. This may be my answer. The pump turns itself back on if the power goes completely off for a minute or so, and then comes back on.
Called a time delay relay.
 

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aralph

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Jun 22, 2015
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St. Francisville, LA