I suspect the sustain folks won't tell us what is in it because there isn't any chemical that can actually do that. So if they told us what it was then any amateur chemist could quickly debunk their theory. Not that we believe them anyway.
I was thanked for linking your elevated CC thread to this Sustain thread, no need to be upset about it. The guides and mods were all curious about the elevated CC's, and couldn't quite figure it out until this thread.So far for this I have seen a guy named Dom thanked for my work .........
I was thanked for linking your elevated CC thread to this Sustain thread, no need to be upset about it. The guides and mods were all curious about the elevated CC's, and couldn't quite figure it out until this thread.
I'm glad you have brought this 'Sustain' product to the forefront so others do not make the same mistake and fall for the marketing BS, thank you. But there is no 'magic bullet' to water sanitation, regardless of what these companies would like you to think.
This all reminds me of the Tobacco industry decades ago, and how the US Surgeon General's office had to force them to disclose that smoking cigarettes can kill you. All they cared about was the $$$, and how they could spin their product to appeal to the masses.
mike, i'm interested to learn what you find out, if anything. it seems to me though, that the shield is simply a related form of cya and if you need cya anyway, do not see any advantage of using it. if you read your linked chem geek article, cya also releases fc. thanks for your efforts.
I want to start by saying I am impressed with your levelheadedness and the fact that you did not blow up and go away while screaming foul language then posting on another site about how TFP was just a "chlorine site".
That said I think TFP is a gold mine for pool owners and I appreciate the healthy skepticism and attention to detail that goes on here. I also believe in getting straight to the point and calling things out when I suspect deception. I am new here and have experienced great success and education recently following the sound advice of TFP members from their personal experiences backed by scientific knowledge and testing.
So thank you for letting me know about this "new" product and getting the information fire going in here. I would never use a product without knowing exactly what it is chemically and yes I am interested in what it actually is. I hope you don't pay too high a price for being a guinea pig.
chem geek (Richard) is the the gold standard by which pool,water chemistry is compared. While he hasn't posted here in a while, he is a regular contributor to pool industry publications, scientific journals dealing with pool water science and governing bodies such as the EPA.