Starting a new pool build in austin (like everyone else..)

march2012

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Jan 21, 2012
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Because of covid it seems like everyone is building a pool in austin. PB are slammed. I built a pool in 2012 and said I would never build another pool. Unfortunately we moved in 2017 and bought a house without a pool so now Im faced with building another pool.

Austin is backlogged so it is going to take 2 months to get the permit. The utility guys came by today to mark utility lines with flags. He also mentioned that pool equipment is starting to be out of stock. He is hoping that in 2 months things will be better.

I noticed that everyone is using pentair. We had hayward before and it was fine. Is pentair much better than hayward? Here are the rough specs and equipment. The total cost is 75K. Dimensions are 14x30, we are trying to get about 17X30 but our property starts to severely slope .

It comes with the rainbow, but Ill install a stenner pump and 15 gallon carboy for bleach into the port. He really wanted lueders coping and lueders and saltwater dont mix.

I didnt like the steps so we are switching to triangular corner steps or a square with steps down both sides. He thought triangle steps were too 80s.

Is the rebar too small, are 10" centers not close enough together? He didnt spec the PVC diameter, should i push on that?
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Permits & Layout:
- submit for permit’s (permit and inspection fees included)
- Layout for inspection
(HOA deposit not included)

Excavation:
- set elevation
- dig pool as designed
- form pool and spa , and haul off

Steel:
- 3/8 in. (#3) rebar on 10 inch centers
- ½ in. continuous 4 bar beam
- 24” deck dowels


Plumbing:
- Anti-vortex main drains
- 2 Skimmers
- 3 returns
- Hayward Sharkvac
- All work done with schedule 40 pvc
- Pressure test @ 40 psi
- Valves as required
- bonding wire and clamps to code

Gunite:
- All Gunite 12” thick (+/- 3”)
- Lifetime Warranty

Electric:
- Hook up as required

Equipment:
  • - 2 hp Hayward Tristar two speed pump
  • - 5030 Hayward Cartridge filter
  • - Hayward E-4 automated control with wireless remote
  • - Rainbow 320 in-line chlorinator
  • - 2 Hayward Chrome ring light(s)
  • - 1 ½ hp blower
  • - Hayward 400K BTU heater

Decking:
- Concrete 3-4” thick with 3/8” rebar reinforcement


Tile/Coping:
- Waterline tile and pool coping to be determined by homeowner


Plaster:
- Quartz (diamond brite midnight blue)
- Matching wall fittings, drain covers, and returns

Gas:
- Gas hook-up as discussed with homeowner


Yard Repair/Irrigation/Drainage:
- 6 to 12 yards of loam will be spread and ruts will be smoothed and filled
- Sprinkler and drainage will be discussed on a job to job basis

Fencing:
- Fencing will be discussed on a job to job basis

Warranties:
- Lifetime gunite shell warranty
- 3 year Equipment
- 2 year plaster
- 2 year tile and coping
- 2 year plumbing and electric
 

kimkats

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Sigh...................so 80s??? So what?? If you like that look go for it. I think it will look purrfect for your pool!

One thing I would do is change the 3' depth to at least 3'5" is you cannot do a full crawl stroke in 3' of water.
 
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HermanTX

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Katy TX
Nice layout. I too like the triangle steps as it provides access to enter or exit to either side. But it is a personal preference for y'all to decide. Ensure your skimmers are independently plumbed back to the equipment pad with valves. The bottom drain should also have its own line back to the pad. This way to can control circulation between them and also with the bottom drain. Either Hayward or Pentair are reputable brands. I like your idea on the stenner pump and your injection port. I would like to see more info on that separately if you have it. You probably should ask about the size of sch. 40 to ensure you have sufficient flow capacity. good luck
 

march2012

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Jan 21, 2012
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Is the rebar thickness and rebar spacing sufficient?

Also it seems weird that he doesnt use the computer software that literally every other builder uses.

what should the size of the sch 40 be?

I would do the stenner pump myself (did it at my last pool). The ony thing I didnt like about the stenner pump is the extremely rapid accumulation of calcium which clogged everything up within 2 years.

Also my pool builder suggested not doing a wifi control system. He said it is very expensive for little benefit. He said he personally just has the puck (which I had in my old pool). The one thing we couldnt do with the puck was set the spa temp.

Is 3 returns enough? Our old pool had like 6 returns or something.
 

HermanTX

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May 20, 2020
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Katy TX
I had read in another post for a pool construction to have "Minimum 2” suction and all equipment plumbing with 1.5” returns". Others may have confirmation of this.
My pool has 5 returns into the pool and 1 primary (non-jet) in the Spa (my spa constantly flows into the pool). I think with your size it should have minimum 4 returns. Placement will be key.
From my investigation in other pool construction forums - 8-10 inch centers on rebar spacing is acceptable norm.
 
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bmoreswim

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Plumbing sizes mentioned above are correct. 2" suction, 1 1/2" on returns. Get 4 returns (or more). One one each side. Filter size is very good. Replace 2-speed Tristar with a 2.7 HP Tristar VS or Tristar VS Omni (smart control via Alexa, etc). Not my area but blowers are not needed for spas if designed properly. Go with a channel style main drain versus circular. Circular drains are so 80's (tell your PB). ;)

+1 on the 3' depth. Too shallow for anything. 3.5' should be minimum shallow end depth.
 

march2012

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Plumbing sizes mentioned above are correct. 2" suction, 1 1/2" on returns. Get 4 returns (or more). One one each side. Filter size is very good. Replace 2-speed Tristar with a 2.7 HP Tristar VS or Tristar VS Omni (smart control via Alexa, etc). Not my area but blowers are not needed for spas if designed properly. Go with a channel style main drain versus circular. Circular drains are so 80's (tell your PB). ;)

+1 on the 3' depth. Too shallow for anything. 3.5' should be minimum shallow end depth.
thanks, we are working out the details, but the contract is signed and the permits are submitted. The city came out to flag the utilities last week which surprised me since permits are taking like 8 weeks to approve.

I think the pump is actually a VS ( can you even buy a two speed?). when I last built a pool (8 years ago) two speed was much more cost effective than VS so the rec was 2 speed. Has that changed?