South Florida Pool & Outdoor Living - STARTUP PHASE

JoyfulNoise

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May 23, 2015
17,444
Tucson, AZ
Pool Size
16000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
I would highly recommend any sunbrella type cushions between the hot sun in FL and rain all others fail, trust me
And appropriately fitting covers. Here in AZ we have scorching hot sun with powerful UV all summer long. I have two sets of furniture outside, one covered (when not in use) and one uncovered and exposed to the elements. The uncovered furniture, after two years, has basically been obliterated by the sun. The covered furniture and umbrellas that I keep covered (equal amount of time) look brand new. The covers get destroyed in about two years but I'd much rather drop $50/each on new covers every 2-3 years as opposed to $1,000's of dollars on new furniture. Florida weather may be more forgiving, but covers are a cheap investment to protect a very expensive one....
 

grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
And appropriately fitting covers. Here in AZ we have scorching hot sun with powerful UV all summer long. I have two sets of furniture outside, one covered (when not in use) and one uncovered and exposed to the elements. The uncovered furniture, after two years, has basically been obliterated by the sun. The covered furniture and umbrellas that I keep covered (equal amount of time) look brand new. The covers get destroyed in about two years but I'd much rather drop $50/each on new covers every 2-3 years as opposed to $1,000's of dollars on new furniture. Florida weather may be more forgiving, but covers are a cheap investment to protect a very expensive one....
Good idea. I wasn't thinking about covers but it makes sense.

What about metal framed furniture (i.e. Wrapped in resin wicker)? Will rust be a problem with the salt water if they remain on the deck?


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txnole

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Aug 18, 2014
544
Amelia Island, FL
Good idea. I wasn't thinking about covers but it makes sense.

What about metal framed furniture (i.e. Wrapped in resin wicker)? Will rust be a problem with the salt water if they remain on the deck?


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Framed aluminum should be fine. I think we have a few pieces (island salt air + SWG pool).
 

grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
I fired up the bubblers tonight for a little test. While I can turn them on and off individually, turning 1 or 2 (of the 3) off does not increase the flow to the ones that remain on. In order to increase the flow, will I need to divert some flow from the pool/spa jets to the bubblers? I don't have our screenlogic automation controller installed yet, so I wasn't sure if/how this could be done. Is there a way to do it from the EasyTouch control panel? Or is the flow I am getting the best it will get?


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Jimrahbe

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Bedford, TX
Brian,

It would help if we knew how they were plumbed..

The only thing the EasyTouch can do is increase or decrease the pump speed. Depending how the valves are plumbed, the EasyTouch can turn them on or off, but it can't control the amount of flow other than by pump speed. If they are controlled by an automated Jandy valve, it will be either all on or all off, electrically there is no in-between position. Mechanically you can adjust the valve's open and closed positions, but the ET can only drive it from one end to the other.

Jim R.

Edit.. I assume your bubblers are controlled by the three red valves labeled as 1, 2, and 3??? If so, what are the positions of the two Jandy valves in between the red handle valves and the SWCG?

Jim R.
 

ShantellyLace

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Jan 20, 2017
609
St Augustine, FL
Thanks! Will make for some fun night swimming. The 2 intellibrites are just enough for the size of our pool.


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That's great to know as we have 2 for ours and it is 505 sq ft and then one in the spa and 2 LED bubblers on the shelf and a LED sheer decent. Glad we went with 2 as yours looks great!
 

grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
That's great to know as we have 2 for ours and it is 505 sq ft and then one in the spa and 2 LED bubblers on the shelf and a LED sheer decent. Glad we went with 2 as yours looks great!
You will have plenty of light with that setup!


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grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
Brian,

It would help if we knew how they were plumbed..

The only thing the EasyTouch can do is increase or decrease the pump speed. Depending how the valves are plumbed, the EasyTouch can turn them on or off, but it can't control the amount of flow other than by pump speed. If they are controlled by an automated Jandy valve, it will be either all on or all off, electrically there is no in-between position. Mechanically you can adjust the valve's open and closed positions, but the ET can only drive it from one end to the other.

Jim R.

Edit.. I assume your bubblers are controlled by the three red valves labeled as 1, 2, and 3??? If so, what are the positions of the two Jandy valves in between the red handle valves and the SWCG?

Jim R.
I will check this out in the morning. I also recall seeing something on this forum about adjustable bubbler eyeballs that can increase/decrease the height based on adjusting the size of the opening by turning them. Unfortunately I don't have those. I would also have to check this, but are those easily swap-able or are they embedded in the plaster?


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bdavis466

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Aug 4, 2014
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San Clemente, CA
You should be able to get enough adjustment from the variable speed pump alone. Did you change the speed?

I hope you're no looking for Old Faithful in your pool!
 

grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
I assume your bubblers are controlled by the three red valves labeled as 1, 2, and 3??? If so, what are the positions of the two Jandy valves in between the red handle valves and the SWCG?
Jim, you are assuming correct. The red ball valves turn each bubbler on/off. As for the jandy valves, here is a pic of before and after turning the bubblers on. It seems to open completely (180 degrees) if I understand the valves correctly. From the time the valve starts opening to the time it is completely open, the bubbler pressure and height seems the same.


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grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
I also recall seeing something on this forum about adjustable bubbler eyeballs that can increase/decrease the height based on adjusting the size of the opening by turning them. Unfortunately I don't have those. I would also have to check this.
Here is a pic of my eyeball:



No, seriously now:



It doesn't seem like these are removable without doing some damage to plaster?


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grumpiebk

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Jun 22, 2016
901
FL
South Florida Pool & Outdoor Living - STARTUP PHASE

You should be able to get enough adjustment from the variable speed pump alone. Did you change the speed?

I hope you're no looking for Old Faithful in your pool!
Brian, I'm looking for something in between what I'm seeing and Old Faithful! As you know I haven't been walked through our equipment yet, so I am learning everything on the fly. I checked the pump settings on the control panel and here's what I could find:







If I understand correctly, this is, or is close to the max speed of my 3hp intelliflow VS?

This was a topic of long discussion before our build. I shared the following picture with my PB to set expectations on what we would like to be able to adjust to (primarily for the kids playing):



I originally wanted to go 9" deep on the shelf but was told the bubblers wouldn't perform like we desired. We also discussed a separate pump. Once we decided to stick at 6" of water, PB confirmed this bubbler height would be no problem with a separate pump. Here is the height we are currently getting:



One other thing to mention is our spa spillover is on. Not sure if that makes a difference?


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Jimrahbe

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Jim, you are assuming correct. The red ball valves turn each bubbler on/off. As for the jandy valves, here is a pic of before and after turning the bubblers on. It seems to open completely (180 degrees) if I understand the valves correctly. From the time the valve starts opening to the time it is completely open, the bubbler pressure and height seems the same.
Sorry, but no pic of your valves showed up.

Jim R.