Selected our Builder, would love feedback also need to decide on Sports or not Sports pool?

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
Looking to build a simple rectangular 14x28 with no water features. The PB that came y said he would provide a 3d design etc. However, he simply put some quotes together in excel and forwarded it :rolleyes:, and not very detailed at that. I suppose i should go back with additional questions for followup just as a learning experience for me if nothing else.

I am out of town this week but have two more scheduled for the week of June 29th and one the week after that. Still also trying to get a few more to come out or even return calls!

Any thoughts on this quote?


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LAFelipe

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Jun 19, 2020
5
Los Angeles, California
I'm in Socal and I'm also bidding out a 14 X 28 without spa or any water features. We got our first quote last week and three more appointments next week. I'm in the process of requesting the make and model for all the pool equipment, but I have a pretty good sense of what it is I'm getting. I'm about 13k higher than your quote :( with a plaster finish. This is what is currently listed on my quote for equipment:

Pentair 3HP variable speed pump for circulation.
Pentair MasterTemp 400K BTU heater.
Pentair DE80 cartridge filter.
Auto fill including running line.
One nicheless low voltage color changing LED light for entrance and 3 for the pool.
Pentair Easytouch 4 panel with Screenlogic to control and automate all equipment
from smartphones and pads.
Salt system (included at no cost; Owner can choose to include or not).

Good luck with your purchase (y)
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
I'm in Socal and I'm also bidding out a 14 X 28 without spa or any water features. We got our first quote last week and three more appointments next week. I'm in the process of requesting the make and model for all the pool equipment, but I have a pretty good sense of what it is I'm getting. I'm about 13k higher than your quote :( with a plaster finish. This is what is currently listed on my quote for equipment:

Pentair 3HP variable speed pump for circulation.
Pentair MasterTemp 400K BTU heater.
Pentair DE80 cartridge filter.
Auto fill including running line.
One nicheless low voltage color changing LED light for entrance and 3 for the pool.
Pentair Easytouch 4 panel with Screenlogic to control and automate all equipment
from smartphones and pads.
Salt system (included at no cost; Owner can choose to include or not).

Good luck with your purchase (y)
Was your quote that much higher including an enclosure? Thanks for listing all the equipment.
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
It’s a huge project and a lot of money. Get more quotes and go with someone who is reliable.
Agree, this PB has a lot of good reviews but not impressed at all with that quote. I will ask some further questions but only to try and help educate myself in this process. Let’s see if I get any decent answers in return, ha.
 

Sparks22

Gold Supporter
Apr 17, 2020
167
Austin, Texas
Yes, the quote includes "... block wall finished with stucco or redwood fence around equipment (approximately 4' x 6' L-shaped)" and all the necessary door alarms.
I could be wrong, but I believe the screen enclosure mentioned in the quote is a full screen enclosure around the entire pool, not talking about the equipment pad.
 
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TBLightning

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Feb 24, 2020
6
Florida
Good price quote but very vaque. I would upgrade the filter also get the 3HP Variable Speed Pump. I didn’t see any info on the quote about the pool finish pricing. Also no information on the shell will it be minimum 6’’ and what size at the bond beam? There was no info on the plumbing type or number of returns/skimmers. Also find out how they will leave your property if they will do proper grading.
 

JayRi

Bronze Supporter
May 13, 2020
46
Tampa, FL
I just signed a contract with a PB in the Tampa area. We spent almost 3 months trying to get builders in for a quote. They are crazy busy, be patient and get a bunch of prices. I made multiple calls back to get info such as materials used, pool finish included, equipment details, etc. I went into it not having any idea on pools. The PB we went with was impressed how I kept asking for specific things, and how I was very knowledgeable. Spend some time on this forum and you will save yourself a ton of stress later on.
If you have any questions on PB in the area or anything else feel free to PM me.
 
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usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
Good price quote but very vaque. I would upgrade the filter also get the 3HP Variable Speed Pump. I didn’t see any info on the quote about the pool finish pricing. Also no information on the shell will it be minimum 6’’ and what size at the bond beam? There was no info on the plumbing type or number of returns/skimmers. Also find out how they will leave your property if they will do proper grading.
Thanks, asked him about these and a few other items. Let’s see how he answers.
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
I just signed a contract with a PB in the Tampa area. We spent almost 3 months trying to get builders in for a quote. They are crazy busy, be patient and get a bunch of prices. I made multiple calls back to get info such as materials used, pool finish included, equipment details, etc. I went into it not having any idea on pools. The PB we went with was impressed how I kept asking for specific things, and how I was very knowledgeable. Spend some time on this forum and you will save yourself a ton of stress later on.
If you have any questions on PB in the area or anything else feel free to PM me.
Thanks, I have 3 more lined up to come out to provide quotes and am working on a few more.
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
I received some more details:

the 3D drawing should be available by tomorrow.

including the Pentair Ultra heat pump 144,000 the total for the project would be $50,500

We would use Marquis pool finish. If you would like pebble it would be an additional cost. (I want a smooth finish not rough on feet so this likely is a good option)

How thick will the pool shell be, and also the bond beam? Bond beam is 8” and shell is usually 6"

What plumbing will be used, how many skimmers, returns? We use 2” plumbing for the returns, vac line and skimmer. For the main drain line 2.5". We use a channel main drain for the pool.

What type of lights will be installed? We use 2 Pentair Glo Brite LED color lights. This helps prevent any leakage down the round through a light niche.

what would the cost be if adding a small sun shelf? I added a small sun shelf on the pool at no extra cost to you.

does the proposal include stairs and a hand rail? Yes steps are included in the pool but no hand rail.

could a swimout be added in the corner of the deeper end? I have a 5’ bench already in the deep end. Its required for code.

what would the grading be from shallow to deep? 3’-6'

is the tile at the waterline included? yes. you have a $7.50 allowance of tile. if you choose glass it is a upgrade.
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
Total as proposed $54,320 ($12,600 is the screen and footers)

We don't want a pebble finish as it's too rough on feet for our standards. First quote I received from a different builder has quartz finish included a Marquis Exposed Aggregate (claimed it was smoother)
https://www.pmmproducts.com/files/pds_marquis-series.pdf
Quoted the pool and finish at $21,500 vs below:

NEW POOL 14 X 28 CONCRETE $ 20,320.30 - Sport style thinking 3.5' and 6' in middle and 4' on other end
INTERIOR LIFETIME WARRANTY STD Pebble Finish 770 sq ft @ $8.50 = $ 6,545.00 (Is this in the range of normal cost?)

Any thoughts on the equipment proposed?

Filter Cartridge Jandy CS 200 $1,200.00
Salt Cell Pro series Jandy True Clear 1 $1,000.00

Pool Lights L.E.D. multi color Jandy Hydo Cool $ 700.00
Deco Drain 2" Removable Top Gray/White/Tan PVC 35 $25.00 $ 875.00
Over Flow Line *Allows rain water to flow out of skimmer PVC $500.00
Pool Alarm $ 350.00

The below costs seem arbitrary as we havent picked out any specifics

TILE WATERLINE TBD STD 84 $20.00 $ 1,680.00
Coping Brick TBD, STD 60 MM 84 $25.00 $ 2,100.00
Decking Brick TBD, STD 60MM 700 $7.50 $ 5,250.00
Pool Cleaning Service / Start Up One FREE Month

Other PB quoted $30 per lf for the footers. I plan to get some quotes from screen builders as I don't know what they should cost and which subs each PB wants to use, etc.

Footer Structural deck edge GRAY CONCRETE 94 $35.00 $ 3,290.00
Screen Enclosure ALUMINUM BRONZ /WHITE MANSARD 1960 @ $4.75 = $ 9,310.00


Automation Aqua link Jandy IQ 904 0 $2,000.00 (optional) - Not sure I need as I don't have any water features other than if we add sun shelf maybe one or two bubblers.
Sunshelf $1,500 (optional)

Thanks!
 

usfbull

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May 11, 2020
124
Tampa FL
019.jpg020.jpgHow does the equipment look? Anything that should be added or omitted?

It is a pool with no spa. 15' x 27' with a 10' x 6' sunshelf that sits outside the swim area. It will be sport pool with the side with the sunshelf being 3.5' the middle 5.5' and the opposite shallow end at 4'.

We will also have a screen enclosure with 20x20 mesh.

2" pipes depending on the plumbing fixture and pressure needed. 3 returns and 1 skimmer. An auto leveler is included, Channel drain with anti vortex and hair snare drain.
1 bubbler on shelf without a light

Pool Finish - Base price is Quartz One builder offering WetEdge and upgrade to Signature Matrix for additional $2,100 another builder offering upgrade to Hydrazzo for an extra $1k (seems to low?) but his overall price is about 5K higher than other PB's though I think he can be talked down based on conversations.

6x6 Waterline Tile

Pentair IntelliFlo 3 hp Variable Speed Pool Pump.
Pentair clean and clear 420 sq ft filter (is this necessary others proposing 200 sq ft) going to 420 adds $400
Ichor 30 SWCG
Intelliconnect to move up to EasyTouch is $1,800 and I just cant justify for the simplicity of our pool

~ 600 sq ft Brick Pavers - to upgrade to level 1 Travertine additional $1,800 (might be worth it)
2" Deco drain
2 MicroBrite Lights

Thanks!
 

JayRi

Bronze Supporter
May 13, 2020
46
Tampa, FL
Looks nice, if it were me I’d add a little more deck space out toward the opposite side of the house. We like to use chaise lounges and made sure we had space for a few.
Also completely preference, but I noticed you had the 2020 mesh screen. Have you been inside a lanai with that mesh? I’m my lanai we had the standard mesh, my sister had 2020 and it felt like there was no air movement under her screen.
Maybe talk to some neighbors and see what their experiences are. Some people love it and some hate it.
 
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usfbull

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Tampa FL
The reason we are looking at the 20x20 mesh is for small biting insects. We live a few blocks from the Hillsborough River and get these tiny biting gnats. They are on our front porch and when we go to neighborhood parks. So we were thinking the 20x20 might keep them away?
 
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