Pump Replacement

vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
I currently have a Jandy Stealth SHPMP2.0 pool pump. It is an extremely loud - I assume it has bad bearings - single speed pump that I'm looking to replace. The two options I have are the Jandy VSFHP165 which is a 1.65 HP variable speed pump and the Jandy VSPHP270 which is a 2.7 HP variable speed pump. I could save $100 on each if I go with the Pentair versions, but I'm unsure if they'll be as easy to replace by not having to rewire/recut PVC. My pool is about 15k gallons. Do I need/want the 2.7 HP or is the 1.65 HP the right answer? Thx!
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
23,963
The 2.2 HP or 2.7 HP model of the Stealth Variable speed pump should work for you.


I think that either one should fit your current unions.
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
23,963
How old is your automation?

The pumps don't come with a controller.

So, you would need to control them through your automation or you would need to get a separate controller if your software is not compatible.
 

vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
I'm trying to figure out how much flow I need. A 15K gallon pool divided by 1,440 would give me a minimum flow of 10.41 gallons per minute if run for 24 hours. Does anybody actually run their pump for 24 hours. My automation is probably the original automation from when the pool was built - 15 years ago. Do you have any complaints of the Jandy VSPHP270DV2A? Thx.
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
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I don't know if it will fit your current unions.

The other thing is if your automation is current enough or if you need a separate controller.
 

vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
Thanks. I'm really not trying to reconfigure the pool or upgrade the automation. Would the two you recommend - the VSSHP220AUT or the VSSHP270AUT - be drop ins?
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
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Would the two you recommend - the VSSHP220AUT or the VSSHP270AUT - be drop ins?
I think so. Verify with Jandy to be sure.

Check with them about the software revision to see if it will work or if you need a separate controller.
 

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vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
So the 2.7 HP pump is ~ 1,400 but the Jandy IQ20 RS upgrade kit is another $750. At that price, is there a better/less expensive option? Am I saving by upgrading the Jandy automation vice buying new automation and pump from another brand?
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
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I think that you can use a IQPUMP01 or the JEP-R as a controller.

Check with Jandy. Their whole lineup is overcomplicated and difficult to understand.
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
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Maybe one of these will work. I think that they have the same connections, but verify with Jandy.

Did you check your software revision to see if it will control the pump?

If not, you can use one of the controllers listed above.

Part of the problem is that it's hard to find prices for Jandy.

Maybe just go with a Pentair SuperFlo or Intelliflo and replumb.
 

vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
Thanks for the info. I spoke with a Jandy person from Utah and he told me I needed the upgrade kit. I'll check the prices of the Pentair and see if it's less expensive to start from scratch.
 

JamesW

TFP Expert
Mar 2, 2011
23,963
I think that the IQPUMP01 is a separate controller from the automation. It will control the pump but it won't coordinate with the automation.

Did you check with Jandy to see if your software will control the pump or how much it would cost to upgrade the automation?
 

vgomez1

Silver Supporter
Oct 13, 2017
36
McKinney, TX
My SW will not control the new vsp - they want me to get an upgrade kit ~ 850. When I asked if I could buy a different pump and automation they said

"Ripping out your existing automation would be a waste and you'd be starting from new and way more expensive. I suggest doing the upgrade kit and pairing with the new pump."

My best bet may be to get the automation upgrade kit, but if my current automation could control my lights and spa and I could change the pump settings with the IQ pump, while not ideal, it would at least be an option. If the new vsp is not controlled by my outdated automation, could I still make the old automation and iqpump work?
 

JamesW

TFP Expert
Mar 2, 2011
23,963
You should be able to control them separately. You would just coordinate the pump runtime and the SWG runtime so that they are on at the same time.

Make sure that the new pump will fit the old unions to make installation easier.