Pool timer in the garage

paronaram

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May 14, 2016
20
Englishtown, NJ
Hello Everybody,

When our pool was built "100" years ago, in the garage we have main pump ON/OFF timer.
Last year it went bad, it will look that it switched OFF, but in real it was not, and since I replaced my main pump it runs almost silent, you don't even hear if it's on or off.
I found out that it's not working from my electric bill :(

If anybody familiar with Paragon 4013-00PC 24-Hour Time Switch ELECTRIC TIMER, what is the modern replacement for it?

Thank you!
 

paronaram

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May 14, 2016
20
Englishtown, NJ
Thank you Allen for reply.
Please see attached pictures of broken switch.
Pump is 220V I know that because I replace it last year myself, and on the switch I have is 120V .
A little confusing...

Thanks.
 

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ajw22

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You are switching 240V and the timer motor is 120V. That is why you have the white neutral wires giving you 120V for the timer motor.

You can get the T104 and let the timer motor run on 240V. Wire nut the two neutral wires together.
 

paronaram

Member
May 14, 2016
20
Englishtown, NJ
Hello Allen,

Can you please take a look at this new timer, before I connect anything... can I just swap the blue wires one to one on new timer 1,2,3 and4 , and where the white wire will go? Under the first screw (screw before #1 connection)
New timer came in with new metal box, so I will nee to replace that too, box swap is no big deal, most important I connect all wires correct

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ajw22

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Wire nut the white wires together and DO NOT connect them to the timer.

Green ground wires go to ground screw in upper left.

Nothing connects to screw A.

Connect power and motor wires to 1,2,3,4.

Follow wiring diagram on the door.

If you are not sure of what you are doing get an electrician to install it.
 

paronaram

Member
May 14, 2016
20
Englishtown, NJ
Yea, it's good that I asked electrician to do it ...
It was kinda complex setup, utilizing same line + one extra wire, I also have GFI outlet installed by the pump / filter area.
So all connected, now pool is open, now I need to clean
Aaand I have more problems :)

Do you know why T104 would shift the ON and OFF flags, and push them close together (by the time arrow) and never trigger OFF?
Do I need to use pliers to tighten ON/OFF flags? I did not see that in the manual ... I don't want to brake anything
I can manually turn it OFF

Thank you!
 

ajw22

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Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Yeah, you can try chinching down the screws using pliers.

How old is the T104?
 

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