Pool Problems

jcain63

New member
Mar 8, 2018
4
Lancaster, CA
Hi, I am new to the pool community and I am having some issues that need attention. First off my pool needs new plaster and decking. Since I am having the plaster and decking redone I would like to upgrade my drain from one non-working drain to two drains that function, also I would like to upgrade my old school concrete skimmer pot to an ABS one. That's right, my skimmer pot is made out of concrete.... By doing so would allow me to add some creature comforts such as an additional return, auto fill, and a vacuum port.

Is there anyone out there that has replaced a concrete skimmer with an ABS?

Has anyone saw cut a trench down the side of the pool to add new drains? If so what was the process like?


Thanks for the help.
 

Dirk

Gold Supporter
TFP Guide
Nov 12, 2017
4,428
Central California
I just had my plaster redone. I took the drains out! Pools are being built now-a-days without them. 2 is safer than 1 but neither is safer than 0! Cleaner look. Doesn't mess with feet or cleaners. You say it doesn't work now? Do you have any circulation problems? Heat distribution? Anything like that? Otherwise, ditch it. When they redid my plaster they added eyeballs on the returns, so I can redirect circulation much better now. Especially if you'll be able to add a return or two. So far, no drains = no problem!

Definitely add the auto-fill. Love mine.

Maybe money would be better spent on a second skimmer rather than fixing the drain(s)...

Experts here like robots, which don't require a vacuum port, but I say add it to have it, for future options or manual vacuuming. Can't add one later.
 

sktn77a

Gold Supporter
May 16, 2010
1,422
Chapel Hill, NC
You should be able to cut out the old (must be VERY old!) concrete skimmer down to the connected suction pipe. Then run more suction pipe up to (or cut it down to) the bottom level of the new ABS skimmer.
 

jcain63

New member
Mar 8, 2018
4
Lancaster, CA
That’s what I was thinking, maybe get rid of it and add more returns to direct flow. I have a robot and I love it. Set it and forget it. Thanks for the reply.
 

jcain63

New member
Mar 8, 2018
4
Lancaster, CA
That’s what I thought I’d do, I’m just not sure on whether I need to use shotcrete or regular concrete. I’ve talked to a few pool builders and they’ve all said that it’s too small of a job. I don’t mind doing it myself, I’d like to get educated prior to cutting into my pool.
 

PoolguyinCT

In The Industry
Jul 21, 2014
3,083
Connecticut
That’s what I thought I’d do, I’m just not sure on whether I need to use shotcrete or regular concrete. I’ve talked to a few pool builders and they’ve all said that it’s too small of a job. I don’t mind doing it myself, I’d like to get educated prior to cutting into my pool.
Shotcrete is concrete, it’s just placed pneumatically. A skimmer Replacement doesn’t require a “shoot.”
 

kadavis

TFP Guide
In The Industry
Apr 5, 2015
1,578
tucson, arizona
If the pool is that old to have a concrete skimmer what type of plumbing do you have, is it all copper? Why would a pool contractor think it's too small a job if your doing a replaster and new deck. You might check with a few companies that do nothing but renovation work
 

PoolguyinCT

In The Industry
Jul 21, 2014
3,083
Connecticut
If the pool is that old to have a concrete skimmer what type of plumbing do you have, is it all copper? Why would a pool contractor think it's too small a job if your doing a replaster and new deck. You might check with a few companies that do nothing but renovation work

I’d like to see a photo.. I’m betting it’s a monolithic poured pool.

Skimmer replacements are good profit jobs, but man oh man— you definitely earn it.