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Smiley9188

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Jun 7, 2016
21
Gatesville, NC
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25000
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Hello!

I first want to thank everyone for the amazing knowledge and resources being shared to help us all care for our pools better. I’m new here, but not, it’ll all make sense

Quite a few years ago we had an above ground pool, just an intex 15’ x 30”. I originally came to pool school then and with your help was able to balance and care for our pool. Fast forward to today. We live in a new state (thank you US Navy) and we recently bought a home with a an above ground 30’ round pool that’s 4’ deep. Whole different ball game from our intex, in a way. I’m mainly thinking of our pump/filter differences along with natural water composition.

Husband is currently deployed and my father-in-law got a bit antsy and took our pool cover off about a week and a half ago. I didn’t have tests and chlorine on hand, so here comes green pool. Green pool came, and about a week after we ‘opened’ but didn’t open properly, I made it to the pools store. I know I know I know . . . Just hang with me. I’m drinking the kool aid and have a TF-100 on the way.
Anyways - we were given a slew of chemicals, which I treated the pool with. Scrubbed scrubbed scrubbed every day - upwards of 5x a day. Went back to the store because pool wasn’t ‘clear’. Was given more shock and algecide 🙈🤦🏽‍♀️ Treated the pool again. Still not clear.

After the second pool store trip I said forget this and jumped knee deep in TFP. My questions started with the difference between sodium-dichlor vs trichlor vs calcium hypochlorite etc. but I was able to gain even more foundational knowledge on water balance, algae and SLAMing.

I’ll attach some photos. First will be a picture of the pool after initial treatment and before 2nd treatment. Filter has been running 24/7 since taking the cover off. Second pic is this morning, about a week and 3 days after opening and all the treatments (the shadow is from the sun rising behind the trees, it’s not piles of debris). I also picked up some testing strips so the algae won’t overtake me again, the test I did this morning is posted too. I’m grateful the CYA is showing 50 but completely understand it might actually be higher. We’ve only been adding liquid chlorine after I ditched the store. there is still plenty of work to be done but I feel like I’m in a better place than I was. Yesterday I realized i missed something in all the incessant scrubbing of the walls and floor, we had a massive amount of algae under our stairs (removable steps), so out they came out for a scrub down. Today was the first day we had a detectable amount of chlorine left overnight. Woohoo! Though I don’t think this rules out needing to SLAM once I get my testing kit.

This won’t be shocking to many of you but other than the shock the pool store didn’t give me any chlorine. She said when I came back she would give me a weekly shock treatment to continue using the rest of the summer. 😳🙄. Blows my mind based on what I know now.

Like I said, I’m here now and ready to actually get my pool balanced and maintained the right way. I think the biggest help thus far has been reading through other peoples stories and the help this wonderful community has offered. I think Numb’s post from 2016 was probably most helpful (I think that was his name).

This brings us to our game plan, which is where I’d really appreciate if you’d be willing to lean in and help. I feel like the cloudiness is likely because there is still algae that needs to be filtered out. Other than using pool math app to keep up on chlorine, what else would you suggest I do as I bide my time? Is it worth raising the PH up to 7.2 before I likely have to slam?
 

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Texas Splash

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Welcome to TFP! :wave: First thing is to relax and not do much anything right now until the kit arrives. You can add about 1/2 gallon of liquid chlorine or regular bleach each day and that's about it. Nothing else. Once you get the test kit, post a full set of results and we'll go from there. You can read-up on the SLAM Process page and the link below for more guidance.

 
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Husky25

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Jun 1, 2015
567
"East of the River" CT
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Hello!

I first want to thank everyone for the amazing knowledge and resources being shared to help us all care for our pools better. I’m new here, but not, it’ll all make sense

Quite a few years ago we had an above ground pool, just an intex 15’ x 30”. I originally came to pool school then and with your help was able to balance and care for our pool. Fast forward to today. We live in a new state (thank you US Navy) and we recently bought a home with a an above ground 30’ round pool that’s 4’ deep. Whole different ball game from our intex, in a way. I’m mainly thinking of our pump/filter differences along with natural water composition.

Husband is currently deployed and my father-in-law got a bit antsy and took our pool cover off about a week and a half ago. I didn’t have tests and chlorine on hand, so here comes green pool. Green pool came, and about a week after we ‘opened’ but didn’t open properly, I made it to the pools store. I know I know I know . . . Just hang with me. I’m drinking the kool aid and have a TF-100 on the way.
Anyways - we were given a slew of chemicals, which I treated the pool with. Scrubbed scrubbed scrubbed every day - upwards of 5x a day. Went back to the store because pool wasn’t ‘clear’. Was given more shock and algecide 🙈🤦🏽‍♀️ Treated the pool again. Still not clear.

After the second pool store trip I said forget this and jumped knee deep in TFP. My questions started with the difference between sodium-dichlor vs trichlor vs calcium hypochlorite etc. but I was able to gain even more foundational knowledge on water balance, algae and SLAMing.

I’ll attach some photos. First will be a picture of the pool after initial treatment and before 2nd treatment. Filter has been running 24/7 since taking the cover off. Second pic is this morning, about a week and 3 days after opening and all the treatments (the shadow is from the sun rising behind the trees, it’s not piles of debris). I also picked up some testing strips so the algae won’t overtake me again, the test I did this morning is posted too. I’m grateful the CYA is showing 50 but completely understand it might actually be higher. We’ve only been adding liquid chlorine after I ditched the store. there is still plenty of work to be done but I feel like I’m in a better place than I was. Yesterday I realized i missed something in all the incessant scrubbing of the walls and floor, we had a massive amount of algae under our stairs (removable steps), so out they came out for a scrub down. Today was the first day we had a detectable amount of chlorine left overnight. Woohoo! Though I don’t think this rules out needing to SLAM once I get my testing kit.

This won’t be shocking to many of you but other than the shock the pool store didn’t give me any chlorine. She said when I came back she would give me a weekly shock treatment to continue using the rest of the summer. 😳🙄. Blows my mind based on what I know now.

Like I said, I’m here now and ready to actually get my pool balanced and maintained the right way. I think the biggest help thus far has been reading through other peoples stories and the help this wonderful community has offered. I think Numb’s post from 2016 was probably most helpful (I think that was his name).

This brings us to our game plan, which is where I’d really appreciate if you’d be willing to lean in and help. I feel like the cloudiness is likely because there is still algae that needs to be filtered out. Other than using pool math app to keep up on chlorine, what else would you suggest I do as I bide my time? Is it worth raising the PH up to 7.2 before I likely have to slam?
Welcome (back? 2016 join date)-

First thing is to forget the address to the pool store. Second thing is that you are flying blind until you receive your test kit and can tell the community how much stabilizer is in the water, which will tell you how much chlorine you will need to complete your SLAM. The cloudiness could have a number of causes. Luckily it will be pretty easy to address once you can ascertain get the 6 main readings.

Best advice at this point is to add a jug of liquid chlorine per day until your kit arrives.

Have you vacuumed? I see the scrubbing part, but the green water that was probably caused by algae is now dead. Perhaps it is contributing to the cloudiness.

Edit: Follow @Texas Splash 's advice on the 1/2 jug/day.
 
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Smiley9188

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Gatesville, NC
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Welcome (back? 2016 join date)-

First thing is to forget the address to the pool store. Second thing is that you are flying blind until you receive your test kit and can tell the community how much stabilizer is in the water, which will tell you how much chlorine you will need to complete your SLAM. The cloudiness could have a number of causes. Luckily it will be pretty easy to address once you can ascertain get the 6 main readings.

Best advice at this point is to add a jug of liquid chlorine per day until your kit arrives.

Have you vacuumed? I see the scrubbing part, but the green water that was probably caused by algae is now dead. Perhaps it is contributing to the cloudiness.

Edit: Follow @Texas Splash 's advice on the 1/2 jug/day.
Good point, when I say scrubbed I should have specified I used a vacuum for the floor and a soft brush (think car wash brush) on the walls. I did vacuum the walls once too but it was a bit trickier than I hoped.
 

Smiley9188

Member
Jun 7, 2016
21
Gatesville, NC
Pool Size
25000
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Vinyl
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Liquid Chlorine
Welcome to TFP! :wave: First thing is to relax and not do much anything right now until the kit arrives. You can add about 1/2 gallon of liquid chlorine or regular bleach each day and that's about it. Nothing else. Once you get the test kit, post a full set of results and we'll go from there. You can read-up on the SLAM Process page and the link below for more guidance.

Ha! That whole patience thing right? I know a we’ll get to a gin clear pool!

thank you for leaning in, I’ll follow the 1/2 gal per day recommendation. Can’t wait for my kit to arrive.
 
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Wobblerlorri

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Well, forget the pool store unless you're in a bind and need 12.5% chlorine at a ridiculous price, or good pool sand at a fairly reasonable price. Don't get "pool sand" from Wal-Mart, it's too fine and ends up on the pool floor.

IMHO, those two items are the only thing the pool store is good for!
 

Smiley9188

Member
Jun 7, 2016
21
Gatesville, NC
Pool Size
25000
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Vinyl
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
Welcome to TFP! :wave: First thing is to relax and not do much anything right now until the kit arrives. You can add about 1/2 gallon of liquid chlorine or regular bleach each day and that's about it. Nothing else. Once you get the test kit, post a full set of results and we'll go from there. You can read-up on the SLAM Process page and the link below for more guidance.

I was able to find some sodium chloride liquid chlorine, but do I need to be worried it will raise my CYA as it’s a stabilized chlorine?
 

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Lilypad

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Check out Home Depot HDX liquid chlorine, Lowe's Kemtek or Walmart Pool Essentials. If none
available, pick up regular household bleach. Not Clorox! No bleach with anything added to it
(cloromax, fragrance, splashless etc.) that add things you do not want in your pool! Welcome
back to TFP!
 

Smiley9188

Member
Jun 7, 2016
21
Gatesville, NC
Pool Size
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Check out Home Depot HDX liquid chlorine, Lowe's Kemtek or Walmart Pool Essentials. If none
available, pick up regular household bleach. Not Clorox! No bleach with anything added to it
(cloromax, fragrance, splashless etc.) that add things you do not want in your pool! Welcome
back to TFP!
Home Depot, Lowe’s and Walmart are all out of stock so I got this at the pool store. Will definitely be using regular household beach to get through the summer!
 
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Smiley9188

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Alrighty! Test kit is here and results are in!
Prior to adding my daily 1/2 gallon of chlorine, results are as follows:

FC: 1
CC: 3
PH: 7.8
TA: 220
CH: 275
CYA: 30

Pool math is telling me to do the following:
- add 69oz 12.5% chlorine, (which i did after testing this morning).
- add acid to lower PH and in turn lower TA. (I have meuric acid)
- add stabilizer (liquid or dry)

Would you suggest dry or liquid stabilizer, what is the best way to purchase? What are my next best steps to get this cloudy pool cleared up? I’ve been reading up on the SLAM process in preparation. . .
 
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Husky25

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Alrighty! Test kit is here and results are in!
Prior to adding my d1/2 gallon of chlorine, results are as follows:

FC: 1
CC: 3
PH: 7.8
TA: 220
CH: 275
CYA: 30

Pool math is telling me to do the following:
- add 69oz 12.5% chlorine, (which i did after testing this morning).
- add acid to lower PH and in turn lower TA. (I have meuric acid)
- add stabilizer (liquid or dry)

Would you suggest dry or liquid stabilizer, what is the best way to purchase? What are my next best steps to get this cloudy pool cleared up? I’ve been reading up on the SLAM process in preparation. . .

You need to SLAM. 69 oz is nowhere near enough to get up to SLAM levels for a 25k gal pool. For comparison, 1/2 gal is my daily maintenance dose for about 27000 gallons.

Leave your CYA where it is until your slam is over. 30 is adequate. When you want to raise it, use dry stabilizer.

Keep testing FC and keep it at SLAM levels as best you can. I wouldn't test CC until after the water clears up. Once you meet the 3 requirements (Clear water, CC<=.05, and Pass OCLT). Let FC drift down to recommended levels for CYA.
 

Husky25

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Jun 1, 2015
567
"East of the River" CT
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Is 220 Correct for TA? That is supper high as well. Bring your pH down to 7.2 before your SLAM with Muriatic Acid will also decrease total TA.
 

Smiley9188

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Gatesville, NC
Pool Size
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Vinyl
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Liquid Chlorine
You need to SLAM. 69 oz is nowhere near enough to get up to SLAM levels for a 25k gal pool. For comparison, 1/2 gal is my daily maintenance dose for about 27000 gallons.

Leave your CYA where it is until your slam is over. 30 is adequate. When you want to raise it, use dry stabilizer.

Keep testing FC and keep it at SLAM levels as best you can. I wouldn't test CC until after the water clears up. Once you meet the 3 requirements (Clear water, CC<=.05, and Pass OCLT). Let FC drift down to recommended levels for CYA.
The 69oz was really just meant to keep the algae at bay until I got my testing kit. Though, I was also going off the amount of gallons the pool store had on record. I calculated it today and I only have 16,900 gallons total. I need to update my profile here.
Is 220 Correct for TA? That is supper high as well. Bring your pH down to 7.2 before your SLAM with Muriatic Acid will also decrease total TA.
I re-tested tonight and TA is at 170, but I did start the slam already. Should I try to lower the TA while slamming?
 

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