No Ionization

almosta pool

Member
Feb 16, 2021
6
Alpharetta, GA
One thing I've learned quickly is that ionization is not the popular opinion! And after reading.... I understand. BUT, when I purchased my package with my pool, my installer was suggesting the ionizer system and he would provide for me. He helped me place my order. Now if I'd like to change to saltwater, what do I need to purchase to be ready for this install? Please help!! Do I just need the right chemicals or an actual piece of equipment to use this setup for a saltwater system? Any guidance would be appreciated. Brand new pool owner, and I'm slightly overwhelmed that I won't have enough chemicals, the right equipment, prepare for shortages, what to have on hand- I need all the KNOWS! :) (in case my screenshot doesn't come through- I basically purchased a giant oval AGP/liner and a 2 speed sand filter pump, plus skimmer. There must be more to this! If anyone can chime in on a Dolphin recommended for AGP this size, i'd love to know- i'm between a nautilus CC Plus and one cheaper- but I don't think there are many Dolphins cheaper that can go +40 feet.
Thanks in advance.

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scout123

Bronze Supporter
Feb 18, 2018
419
Northwest GA
You would need a salt water generator. It's an actual piece of equipment. You can search on this forum (upper right hand corner) for SWG installation and it will prob bring up some posts that might help. Chemicals you'll need: plain bleach or liquid chlorine, CYA (stabilizer). If you get a SWG, you'll need pool salt. Once you test and see where things are you may need muriatic acid and/or baking soda.

The fist thing to buy is a good test kit. It will save you so much heartache and money if you test your water yourself WITH a good test kit. TFT test kit or the Taylor K-2006 . The test kit will be overwhelming at first, but once you get it down, it's fast and easy to use.

Good luck with your new install!!
 

almosta pool

Member
Feb 16, 2021
6
Alpharetta, GA
You would need a salt water generator. It's an actual piece of equipment. You can search on this forum (upper right hand corner) for SWG installation and it will prob bring up some posts that might help. Chemicals you'll need: plain bleach or liquid chlorine, CYA (stabilizer). If you get a SWG, you'll need pool salt. Once you test and see where things are you may need muriatic acid and/or baking soda.

The fist thing to buy is a good test kit. It will save you so much heartache and money if you test your water yourself WITH a good test kit. TFT test kit or the Taylor K-2006 . The test kit will be overwhelming at first, but once you get it down, it's fast and easy to use.

Good luck with your new install!!
Awesome- thank you so much!!
 

Mdragger88

Bronze Supporter
Jun 1, 2018
1,759
Hernando, Ms
Pool Size
26000
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Intex Krystal Clear
Definitely u need a good test kit as mentioned above Test Kits Compared

A salt pool IS a chlorine pool that uses the salt & the swg to create the chlorine for u.
all the ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry _CYA][/FC_CYA] still apply.
It looks as if you’re pool volume will be around 24k gallons
This can be calculated on the old poolmath page
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You will want a salt water chlorine generator that is rated for twice that amount- so 50k gal. This helps the cell live longer as you won’t need to run it 100% 24/7. You do not want an under powered cell.
You can go here to compare brands, sizes, warranties, cell life & chlorine outputs to help u make a decision on what to get & what would work for your budget
Many members here are happy with their circupool swgs. Diy of them is fairly straight forward & doesn’t effect the warranty.
Hopefully u can g your $ back for the ionizer.
As for the dolphin there are several with a 50ft or longer cord. These are the original models which are rebranded with fun names at other retailers (kinda like mattresses)
 

Teald024

TFP Guide
Hello and Welcome to TFP!!

You definitely don't need the ionizer. Take the money you would have spent on that and get a SWG.
As mentioned by @Mdragger88 , pick a salt cell that is 2x rated for the pool volume.
The Hayward AquaRite T-15 or CircuPool RJ-30 would be a good fit if you didn't have any automation.

As far as items to have on hand, I would suggest the following:
Test Kit: TF-100 from TFTestkits.net
Liquid chlorine, granular CYA, muriatic acid, salt (if going with a SWG)
Don't get any other chemicals until you perform testing.
Most of these chemicals can he found at your favorite grocery or hardware store.
 

almosta pool

Member
Feb 16, 2021
6
Alpharetta, GA
Hello and Welcome to TFP!!

You definitely don't need the ionizer. Take the money you would have spent on that and get a SWG.
As mentioned by @Mdragger88 , pick a salt cell that is 2x rated for the pool volume.
The Hayward AquaRite T-15 or CircuPool RJ-30 would be a good fit if you didn't have any automation.

As far as items to have on hand, I would suggest the following:
Test Kit: TF-100 from TFTestkits.net
Liquid chlorine, granular CYA, muriatic acid, salt (if going with a SWG)
Don't get any other chemicals until you perform testing.
Most of these chemicals can he found at your favorite grocery or hardware store.
Thanks for your time and guidance!! Truly appreciate it and the links- i'm on a good start :)
 

almosta pool

Member
Feb 16, 2021
6
Alpharetta, GA
Now I’m totally freaked out about the ionizer. What do I do now? The pool I got does not say its compatible with saltwater system! I thought I could just buy the SWG that ya'll suggested and would've been ok, but now I’m realizing this pool does not say salt water compatible. Should I just plan to use chlorine? (I never bought the ionizer, I was going to on pool install day from the installer).

So now I have sitting in my driveway: a giant pool (21'x43'x54" Melenia Oval Pool with an upgraded liner), and a hayward S230T 23” Sand Filter System 1.5-HP 2-Speed Matrix Pump. Install date in March and I want all my equipment ready for installer! Is there a type of generator thing needed to run good old fashioned chlorine? Or take the plunge on a SWG and likely void any pool warranty from Wilbar? Will it kill the lifespan of my pool to use a SWG and saltwater system? (Here’s the pool: 21'x43'x54" Melenia Oval Swimming Pool)

Thank you in advance guys- I’m leading this install/purchase on my own as my hubby just doesn’t have the time to assist. I’m down a rabbit hole of research and love this forum and think I can get the support I will need to run/maintain this pool with all of you wonderful people! - I am looking at this if we think my pool will be able to sustain the salt: CircuPool RJ-60 PLUS Saltwater Chlorinator | Discount Salt Pool
 
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mknauss

Mod Squad
TFP Expert
Bronze Supporter
May 3, 2014
35,937
Laughlin, NV
Pool Size
6000
Surface
Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Reading the warranty it does not state anything about salt nor does it cover corrosion, from any source that I can tell.

Using liquid chlorine will raise the salinity in the water to near what you will use for the SWCG in a year or so.

Corrosion will occur if you have a leak in the liner. Any corrosion other than that will happen regardless if you have a SWCG or not.
 

almosta pool

Member
Feb 16, 2021
6
Alpharetta, GA
Reading the warranty it does not state anything about salt nor does it cover corrosion, from any source that I can tell.

Using liquid chlorine will raise the salinity in the water to near what you will use for the SWCG in a year or so.

Corrosion will occur if you have a leak in the liner. Any corrosion other than that will happen regardless if you have a SWCG or not.
Awesome- thanks. So adding a SWG causes no added issues. I think i'll go for it!!