New Pool build. Gathering estimates have a question

gingrbredman

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2020
83
Chicagoland
I think the best way is still to wait for a market downturn. We can't be far off.... 😕
I would have thought the same thing back in April when we began looking for pools and talking to builders. The market was in trouble, the economy shaken, high unemployment, and pool builds on the way up. Since then, many pool builders are booking 2021 solid, and some into 2022 depending on your area. Its almost counter intuitive, but pool builders are swamped with builds and even more so with quotes. I agree with your comments above, I'm just not so sure we are going to be seeing a break in pool building demand any time soon.

Our PB moved very little from their pricing. They basically told us (In a nice way), they will book a build on the pricing they are charging, there is little incentive for them to lower prices in order to get our business. Someone is going to get in line, and put their deposit down. If the PB can get more for the build they quoted the other day, why bring their prices down for one more build? They still have long lines just waiting to talk about their next pool. I have heard a lot of builders will indeed throw in "extras" or other things the other guys don't. It probably doesn't cost the PB all that much, but it gives the customer a warm fuzzy they got something off MSRP.

Best of luck with the talks with the PBs. Like others have mentioned, it becomes difficult to compare apples to apples, but if you get enough quotes, and understand what is included in each one, you will start to narrow down which package/builder you are most comfortable with.
 

gingrbredman

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2020
83
Chicagoland
Our first builder quote includes 1 light. This next builder I am hoping to hire but still waiting on includes 3 LED lights per my friend's quote I saw.

I definitely would love lights not only for the look but I do have 3 small kids ages 2 thru 7 so it might be good to have them.
The kids for sure will love the lights! And they are only small now, wait till they grow up and night swimming is their thing. I do get the thought process on finding ways to reduce the big cost of a pool, but eliminating lights all together would probably be regretful. Maybe not have them on automation just yet, a simple switch would do. I guess in the grand scheme of it all, you can justify any cost add or removal based on the "big picture", but I like to think of what would be a real pain to do later, things like lights are one of those.
 

Sollace

Gold Supporter
Aug 16, 2020
147
Byran TX
We had a pool for seven years, came with the house we bought. We used the pool light. . . A handful of times. Our youngest was 8 at the time and he and his siblings were always in bed by 9 PM. . . None of the kids swam at night. Never had night parties. Any parties they had were in the day, after school or on weekends.

We never stared out at our pool at night or sat outside. Our blinds were closed, the only time we glanced at the pool was when we were walking to and from the car carrying groceries. We aren't night owls.

If you're getting a deep end, go for a light, I can see wanting one for that. In our next build we won't have a deep end, so I don't see putting one in. We're going with a light pool finish, so we can see clearly, even from a distance just what is in the pool. And there are other options than a pool light. Floodlights in the back yard work just as well. . .

I was mentioning ways to save on pool expenses. It's something to think about if your budget is tight.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JC707

JC707

Well-known member
Sep 5, 2020
50
Bay Area, CA
Are sheer decents or as my noob self calls them...waterfalls, expensive to do? Maybe 24". And do they need a seperate pump? We plan on going with a basic 30x15 rectangular pool, no spa.
 
Last edited:

spd500

Well-known member
Jul 20, 2020
314
Houston, TX
Are sheer descent or as my noob self calls them...waterfalls, expensive to do? Maybe 24". And do they need a seperate pump? We plan on going with a basic 30x15 rectangular pool, no spa.
We added 2 24" sheer descent waterfalls to our pool and the builder charged us $750 for both. We are also adding a second pump for the water features, but that was optional. THe only reason we are adding the second pump is to be able to use the water features while we are using the spa. Another thing to consider with the sheer descent waterfalls is that they are installed in the raised wall. We were already installing a raised wall anyway, so that didn't matter to us. We added a 29 foot wall one foot tall and the builder charged us an additional $500 for it.
 

Desert Dog

Well-known member
Apr 4, 2020
211
Alpine, Ca
No spa and one sheer descent? You should not need a second pump. I have one pump and a valve with an actuator to turn it on. In addition, I have the pump programmed to change RPM or flow when activated to fine tune it to just how I like it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JC707

JC707

Well-known member
Sep 5, 2020
50
Bay Area, CA
We added 2 24" sheer descent waterfalls to our pool and the builder charged us $750 for both. We are also adding a second pump for the water features, but that was optional. THe only reason we are adding the second pump is to be able to use the water features while we are using the spa. Another thing to consider with the sheer descent waterfalls is that they are installed in the raised wall. We were already installing a raised wall anyway, so that didn't matter to us. We added a 29 foot wall one foot tall and the builder charged us an additional $500 for it.
Yeah we plan on a 25 foot raised wall 18" or so high. I was thinking that additional alone would be $3,000 or more but you paid $500?! That would be amazing for us if so. Thanks for the input.
 

spd500

Well-known member
Jul 20, 2020
314
Houston, TX
He originally quoted me $1000 for the wall and then when we were doing the final budget agreement he lowered the wall to a $500 add on because we are doing tile on the wall instead of travertine
 
  • Like
Reactions: JC707

spd500

Well-known member
Jul 20, 2020
314
Houston, TX
No, the tile is included for the $500. It was going to be $1000 because he thought we wanted the stacked travertine to match the coping and it is a more expensive material.
 

JC707

Well-known member
Sep 5, 2020
50
Bay Area, CA
No, the tile is included for the $500. It was going to be $1000 because he thought we wanted the stacked travertine to match the coping and it is a more expensive material.
Wow I am all off on my estimations. Hoping the pool builder we will be meeting with soon is in this same price range. If so will add in 1 or 2 sheer waterfalls. I think my kids will enjoy them.
 

spd500

Well-known member
Jul 20, 2020
314
Houston, TX
We didn't go with any of the exotic materials that alot of people are using in pool builds and really tried to keep our budget under control. Our general thought was that we would be happy just to have the pool at all
 
  • Like
Reactions: JC707