The old liner was 6 years old and developed a leak either shortly before or sometime after I closed it last fall. I let the water leak down to the level of the leak hoping to make it easier to find in the spring. Well, turns out the leak is somewhere in the bottom.... We opted for a new liner and I'll put a pad under this one. I am thinking I will get new gaskets for the skimmer and the return. It's going to take long enough to fill that I can probably order them and still have them in time if I can't get them locally.