New inground pool and pool house/pavilion build North Carolina

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
My wife and I have been dreaming of a pool ever since we built our house in 2010. We had a 400 amp electric meter installed and designed our septic tank and leach field so a pool would fit behind our house. In January of this year we finally made the decision to do it. Her parents had a 20x40 vinyl pool that we spent our last high school and all of college years swimming in. We knew we wanted a similar size. Out of 4 pool builders we talked with, only 3 actually gave us quotes, the 4th seemed like we were bothering him and I gave up on him after a month. We finally picked our pool builder based on the design and responsiveness in the design process and so far they have been great. Our sales rep/designer came to our house multiple times with his computer and spent hours with me tweaking the design to our liking. They have been very flexible and have allowed me to make changes pretty much at will. They truly seem to have "the customer is always right" attitude. So here are the details

Pool type: inground free form concrete pool with tanning ledge, all Jandy equipment
Pool Size: 46x22 at its longest and widest 4 ft shallow end, 7 ft deep end 9 in on tanning ledge
Coping: Ivory Travertine
Pool Deck, stamped and colored concrete
Water Features(We went a little overboard here): 3 sheer descents, 2 bubblers on tanning ledge, 3ftx3ftx15ft waterfall with jumping rock in middle
2 gas fire bowls on either side of the waterfall
1 gas fire pit beside pool
4 nichless LED lights(one on the tanning ledge)
Spa: 10ft x 7ft, 14 jets, 13ft spill over, 1 nichless LED light
Pumps: (3) 2.7 HP variable speed pumps, all are model VSSHP270AUT
Spa blower: model PSB220
Filter: Cartridge Filter CV580
Control/Automation: I Aqualink RS-PS12, Power center model number 6614AP-L
Salt System: Fusion Soft 1400
Heater 1: 400k btu propane gas heater model JXI400P (for quickly heating the spa and pool)
Heater 2: 132K btu heat pump model JE3000TR (for maintaining pool during start and end of season)
equipment pad is 14x3.5ft

I think thats about it for the Pool, Now the pool house/pavilion

50x28 total size, metal construction with all metal wrapped in cedar. We are big Disney World fans so if you have ever been we are going for the Wilderness Lodge look/feel.
30x28 sitting / dining area with wood burning fireplace.
20x17 outdoor U shaped kitchen,
20x11 bathroom/storage room/changing room.

Today is Gunite Day! I am watching them work on the tanning ledge right now as I am typing this. I have plenty of pictures during the build process that I will add. If you see anything crazy let me know. We just added the heat pump to the equipment list this week. We just had our 325 gallon propane tank filled this week and it is 2.00 / gallon. Our electric rate is $0.10/kw. From my calculations and the research I have done hear I think the heat pump will be worth it over using the gas heater to maintain the pool during april/may and september/october.

Also, here is the youtube video of our 3d model
 

sktn77a

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May 16, 2010
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Chapel Hill, NC
Check out pool builders in Charlotte, Winston Salem, Greensboro, New Bern, Wilmington. You're not limited to Raleigh just because you live there. I found the Raleigh companies a bunch of arrogant pr_cks! Needless to say, we went elsewhere.
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
Ours is technically from Durham. Maybe we got lucky with the sales/designer guy we were put in contact with but hes been great. He has already asked what my kids favorite colors and animals are. He is getting them pool floats when we are finished.
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
So here are a few pictures from the build so far. This is over a few days/weeks. I don't have any from the original dig day, I hope my wife does. Lots of plumbing and rebar. We made a change after these pictures were taken to the slope from shallow to deep end. We wanted more shallow end so we increased the slope to about 1 x 4 and extended the shallow end by i think 5 or 6ft before it drops off. That change delayed us by 3 weeks on gunite because the contractor had already moved on to another pool and he had to come back to make the change.
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NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
The big mound of dirt needed to be moved so we lucky for us my father in law is a farmer who lives just down the road. My wife got the nice tractor with the cab and heat, I got the old backhoe and we moved dirt for a few days. We also got the rocks from our waterfall, fire pit, and others just to sit around to tie everything together.IMG_1976.JPEG90099332_10100628175378774_8833153332932509696_n.jpg60511651874__11DD8332-48E1-4CF1-9DCD-1368E6D6C5F2.JPGIMG_1948.JPEG
 
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Pleinjane

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Jun 11, 2018
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Chapel Hill NC
Wow - that's going to be jaw-dropping gorgeous! I'm still in the bidding stages but I'll be watching this build as it progresses! It looks like you have plenty of room to add all the cool features.
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
So as I said, yesterday was gunite day. The crew worked 12 hours straight. They seemed to do a great job. We made some changes to the steps from the tanning ledge. Originally we had steps coming off both sides, but that seemed like a waste of space and it ate into our shallow end. We moved the steps to the middle which I think gives us that space back. Overall very happy to finally have gunite because we have been waiting for 3 weeks for them to come. Every time they scheduled us for gunite it would rain. The only access to the pool is from a farm tractor entrance off the main highway and across the field beside our house. We did not want them on our concrete driveway. So we had to wait until it was dry enough for the concrete trucks not to get stuck in the field.

Now on to watering! The pool builder has already been out this morning and watered the pool. When we were digging the pool we hit ground water so we have been running a pump until today to keep it dry. The gunite guys told me to hook a soaker hose to that pump and use the ground water that will come back into the pool to help water the bond beam. I may try that today if I can find a soaker hose to use. May also setup some sprinklers and a timer to water it every hour or 2 during the hottest part of the day. I have a lot of them left over from when we seeded the yard years ago when we built the house.

Next up this week should be the footings for the pool house being dug, electrical to the pool house and equipment pad ran, and hopefully start tile in the pool.IMG_2030.JPEGIMG_4231.JPEGIMG_4244.JPEGIMG_4249.JPEGIMG_4252.JPEG
 
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NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
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Raleigh, NC
Yes I will need a fence. The wife and county are requiring it.

So the pump in the bottom of the pool is not working out great. It is sucking in a lot of concrete dust/small rocks and getting clogged which trips the ground fault outlet. Not sure why its tripping the ground fault instead of the actual circuit breaker in the panel. I have a foot of water in the pool now just from ground water coming in and its still pouring in. I have what looks to be a 2 inch pvc pipe in the deep end that its coming in through, I assume this pipe will be used for the pressure valve that I have seen mentioned before. So I am watering with house water for now.

Quick question, how often should I be watering the concrete. Today's high is 84 and the sun is hot, pretty sure my neck and forehead got burnt just from being out this morning already. Also, is it worth it to setup lawn sprinklers on a timer or just do it manually? I don't want the ground around the pool to get muddy from overshoot from the sprinklers. I also don't want to water this manually every 2 hours for the next 2 weeks.

And thanks for the compliments on the garage. It is the reason we didn't build a pool 10 years ago when we built the house We had to choose between the garage and the pool. I love it, although we have learned no matter how much space and storage you have, we still find a way to fill it up.
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
I wanted to get some opinions on tile grout. We picked out our waterline tile, coping, and stone veneer a few months ago but not grout.

This is our waterline tile

Our coping is a 12x12 ivory travertine. I don't have a website for the exact tile but this is close.

Our stone veneer that is going on the spa wall and the raised wall on the tanning ledge is this

Our grout choices are here.

So far we have settled on antique white. I don't know if it is best to match the tile as much as possible of if a lighter or darker grout would be better. In my mind a lighter/white grout would show stains more. That may not be an issue for a pool like it is a shower or tub. Any suggestions?
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
24
Raleigh, NC
Tile started yesterday, they will be back Monday to work on coping and stone veneer. One thing my wife and I didn't do when we picked out tile and coping was take the samples outside in full sunlight. These are a lot lighter in the sun than I remember in the PBs showroom. Doesn't bother us enough to change anything at this point but if I had to do it over again I would have went a little darker. IMG_2080.JPEGIMG_2081.JPEGIMG_2079.JPEGIMG_2082.JPEGIMG_2083.JPEG
 

NCMike

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Jan 31, 2020
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Raleigh, NC
The tile, coping and stone veneer are complete and work has begun on the pool house. Footings have been poured and the corner columns are up. Hopefully it stops raining soon and they can get back to work. This weeks struggle between the pool builder and pool house contractor is when to pour the equipment pad and who runs the main electrical line to the pool house. In my opinion I think I need one main sub panel in my pool house storage room, maybe around 150 amps or so based on my equipment. Then the pool builder should pull his electrical from that sub panel to the equipment pad. The pool builder is in a hurry and wants the electrical going to the pool pad to be completely separate from the pool house even though the equipment pad is on the back wall of the pool house. Also the pool builder wants the equipment pad poured now. I think he should wait a week or so until my pool house builder can put the first row of block and brick up on the pool house back wall so the equipment pad can be poured right up next to the wall. Here are some pictures of the progress so far.
 

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