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Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
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Glendora California
#1
Hello everyone. First off thanks to this forum it is a wealth of knowledge. I just donated to the forum because I believe the information on here is invaluable. So I am venturing into the wonderful world of building a pool. And IÂ’d like to run the numbers and specifics by everyone before I sign this contract. Please feel free to let me know what IÂ’m missing and what I should do and not do

Freeform 37x25
800sqft
132 linear feet
gunite
mini pebble
3.5x6ft
spa
2 skimmers
2 deluxe anti vortex drains in spa
6 1 1/2 jets for spa
supply line from owners source to pool
pentair intelliflo vs pump
mastertemp 400btu
intellichlor ic40
clean and clear 420
intellibrite led for pool
intellibrite led for spa
easytouch 4 pool/spa/intellichlor 40
screenlogic 2
pour In place coping
dolphin robot cleaning.
Please pick it apart and let me know what to change or add. Also if you can add any plumbing recommendations. That would be great. I donÂ’t understand what you mean by returns and also if I need drainage at the bottom. Any and all recommendations are appreciated. Pics to follow.

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mknauss

Mod Squad
May 3, 2014
11,870
1
Laughlin, NV
#3
Welcome to the forum! :handshake:

Great start with that shiny Supporter badge!!

Your equipment list looks pretty good. Be sure you do not want the ET8. You really only have three relays available on the ET4 (one is Pool dedicated) so controlling lights, etc will take up the others.

Also be sure the pool volume is under 20000 gallons. Looks like it, but check. Your SWCG needs to be rated for at least 2X your pool volume.

The spa spillover is really going to drive your pH up. Be sure you can either turn it off or somehow reduce it dramatically for daily maintenance purposes. Do you have hard water in Glendora? Do you have a water softener?

I suggest you read Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry and consider reviewing the entire Trouble Free Pool School book.
 

Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
0
Glendora California
#4
The spa will not actually have the spillover effect. But the water will sit flush on top of the tile. And as far as hard water is concerned. I don’t think we have much of an issue. And I will double check the gallons. And I think I will upgrade to the easytouch 8. Now what if I went to the ic60 as well just to be safe? Will it harm any other equipment because it’s a large swg?
 

mknauss

Mod Squad
May 3, 2014
11,870
1
Laughlin, NV
#5
It will not harm anything to go to IC60. As you can see from my signature I oversized my SWCG too.

It might not (and mine probably was not) be economic as the Pentair SWCG's are pretty linear in cost as you increase in size.
 

GregInClaremont

Silver Supporter
Jun 25, 2017
128
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Claremont, CA
#6
Hi neighbor! We just built a pool in the last year too and I second the ET8 upgrade, also, If you don't have many outlets around the yard, maybe plan for some of those for yard tools or landscape lighting, etc. Your design looks interesting with the spa set up that way but I feel I have to say this one thing after having cut my lawn this afternoon, prepare yourself for grass clippings in your water every.time.you.mow!
 

HmnRcn

Well-known member
Mar 30, 2014
138
0
Visalia, CA
#7
I agree that you should upgrade to the ET8. You will also want more lighting in the pool and possibly even on your sun shelf. I would also see about adding a couple of deck jets. I added two to mine that were pretty inexpensive and now that I have had it for 8 months, I would have liked to have added more. Just my suggestions on things to think about.
 

Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
0
Glendora California
#8
669D11D3-FD0A-468D-8242-FD6BA459C67F.jpg So here is my equipment list that I ordered. Should be here by the end of the week. Also have a clean and clear 520 coming. Plans need 2 minor changes with pool equipment label and gas line label. Then we should be ready to rock and roll. All subs are lined up and waiting for us.
 

bdavis466

Platinum Supporter
TFP Expert
In The Industry
Aug 5, 2014
4,128
3
San Clemente, CA
#11
Why 3 pumps? The Whisperflo is often incorrectly spec'd and the Superflo does not integrate with automation very nicely.

The Intellicenter and IC60 were good picks.

Your spa still will have the spillover feature and that's how the spa will get circulated and chlorinated. Since you have automation this will be something easily controlled and we'll help you set it up later on.
 

Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
0
Glendora California
#12
Why 3 pumps? The Whisperflo is often incorrectly spec'd and the Superflo does not integrate with automation very nicely.

The Intellicenter and IC60 were good picks.

Your spa still will have the spillover feature and that's how the spa will get circulated and chlorinated. Since you have automation this will be something easily controlled and we'll help you set it up later on.
Thanks for the advice. The 3 pumps are for water features. Laminars and bubblers. Are there better choices for these?

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I know he's not doing a spillover, but why is this? Is it from the aeration?
my mistake. It will still spillover for filtration. It’s a learning curve.
 

kimkats

Mod Squad
LifeTime Supporter
Jul 11, 2012
35,510
5
Tallahassee, FL
#15
Jumping to watch this build and to get it in front of bdavis466's eyes again.

On the pH rise question, yes the aeration from a spill over, fountain, bubblers, heavy rain, etc will push pH up. I can roll my one return up so it rolls the water good and push my pH up.

Kim:kim:
 

bdavis466

Platinum Supporter
TFP Expert
In The Industry
Aug 5, 2014
4,128
3
San Clemente, CA
#16
So the intelliflo can run 4 laminars and 3 bubblers? I want everything to be independent of each other. Or be able to run all at the same time and have enough power.
Yes. The intelliflo XF would be ideal and the beauty is you can dial in the flow for the actual needs instead of being over pressurized by a single pump.

The Intellicenter well soon be able to automate all of that with a single valve but not just yet. You'll have to wait for a programming update.
 

Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
0
Glendora California
#17
Yes. The intelliflo XF would be ideal and the beauty is you can dial in the flow for the actual needs instead of being over pressurized by a single pump.

The Intellicenter well soon be able to automate all of that with a single valve but not just yet. You'll have to wait for a programming update.
Thank you immensely.

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kimkats

Mod Squad
LifeTime Supporter
Jul 11, 2012
35,510
5
Tallahassee, FL
#18
MUD! Let the mud begin or get worse LOL

What did they do with the fire pit?

Run out there with your plans and a measuring tape. Add about 8" for steel, gunite, and plaster. Is it deep, wide, long, etc enough? NOW is the time to tweak.

Kim:kim:
 

Flyis4ever

Gold Supporter
Aug 22, 2018
13
0
Glendora California
#19
MUD! Let the mud begin or get worse LOL

What did they do with the fire pit?

Run out there with your plans and a measuring tape. Add about 8" for steel, gunite, and plaster. Is it deep, wide, long, etc enough? NOW is the time to tweak.

Kim:kim:
Done!!!! Thanks to you. I did it with the excavator. Thanks for the advice.

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The fire pit is still here.