New build quotes in northern NJ

Cphats

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Aug 20, 2020
7
Hawthorne, NJ
Hi everyone
lurking and reading for a while here. I had initially thought I wanted a fiberglass pool, but began looking into vinyl after getting the actual quote for fiberglass. We are looking for simple rectangle. The fiberglass quote is his estimate for a 15x 30 model from leisure.
what do you guys think of these various setups/configurations?
thanks in advance
chris
 

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YippeeSkippy

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Jan 17, 2012
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Evans, Georgia
Sounds like a pretty good price to me except...
-Ditch the UV device. Total waste of money (and boy is that a LOT of money!)
-Skip the pressure sweeper cleaner which also needs high energy booster pump to work and get a robot insteadl
-LOVE the 8' depth!

That's all I see, but others may see other details to comment on. Keep us in the loop!

Maddie :flower:
 

Cphats

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Aug 20, 2020
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Hawthorne, NJ
Thanks Maddie! I had included my personal info on the fiberglass upload and the other mod deleted it. I thought he had deleted my whole post, so I missed this earlier. I guess I'm still new to how the board works. I'm attaching the fiberglass quote for comparison. Were you referencing the handwritten quote or the typed one? TIA!
- Chris
 

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ajw22

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TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
21,116
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
You are in @jimmythegreek territory. Let's see what he thinks.

On the vinyl liner quote:
  • No PVC ball valves. Use all diverter valves.
  • What BTU gas heater?
  • What size SWG cell? You want your cell capacity to be at least 2X your pool volume. You probably need a T-15 cell.
  • What model auto vac? Skip it and get a robot pool cleaner.
  • I would not pay full balance due upon liner delivery. I would hold back at least 10% payment to be paid after startup of pool and all equipment.
  • I don't see any automation system like the AquaLogic or OmniPL. How will the lights be controlled? You need the SWG to not be powered when the pump is off by the automation or a timer.
 

Cphats

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Aug 20, 2020
7
Hawthorne, NJ
Thank @ajw22 ! I think you're referring to the MetroPools quote (the typed vinyl quote), right? The handwritten fill in quote is from Everclear. I was going to keep the builder names out but I don't see the point since I'm not saying anything bad about them. Everclear gave me a more detailed packet that included all the Pentair brochures, but Metro may have just given me links to the Hayward page. I only see brochures for liners and covers in their packet. I believe the Everclear quote includes the equivalent items you are mentioning, except they say "operating valves" without specifying ball or diverter. He didn't specify the size of the Intellichlor he was including, but I will ask. I believe the automation on Pentair is built into the the Ez-touch? Is there an additional cost to be able to control that with iphone/ipad? I will negotiate the 10% hold back. That's a really good point. I will definitely get a robot cleaner instead.
 

YippeeSkippy

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Jan 17, 2012
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Evans, Georgia
Uh..... I see one quote for 47k and another for 97k !??!!? <faint swoon faint again at the increased cost> I must have missed something somewhere...?

Maddie
 

ajw22

Gold Supporter
TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
21,116
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
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spd500

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Jul 20, 2020
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Houston, TX
Personally I would make it clear to any contractor that you decide to use that the final payment is not to be released until the project is 100% complete and punch list items have been addressed.
 
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jimmythegreek

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Aug 10, 2017
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Morris Cnty NJ
Looking over the 40k quote is reasonable. He doesn't include anything with plumbing or electrical theres 5k there just to start added on. He also doesn't include any silt fence, grading, dirt removal, etc. Its a low price estimate that will have 10k added on in no time. Justa be aware of that. All the things that are to be paid by customer are things needed to build a pool. The permits and the engineered drawing is a grand alone. All in all still in the ballpark

Thanks for mentioning me above, unfortunately I'm swamped thru all of 2021, and I don't think I will even finish the work ahead for 2020 at this point. Rain rain go away, come back 2021