New build in CA

tomas21

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Jan 24, 2020
35
Southern California
Design: 18x35 w/ 7x13 Baja + 7x9 raised spa
Pool: ~25K gallons
Size: 18x35​
Baja shelf: 7x13 ~18” deep​
Shallow end: 3 1/2 ft​
Deep end: 8-9 ft​
Pump: IntelliFlo VSF 011056 (pool pump)​
Plumbing: 3-4 returns, 2" double main suction at the deep end,1 skimmer, Auto-fill, Vacuum inlet (just in case) plan to use robot​
Lighting: 4 Microbrites (4 lights in pool facing away from house, 2 on Baja & 2 spread across length of pool)​
Tile & Coping: 14" cast in place concrete coping around pool and spa, tile TBD​
Plaster: TBD, Stonescapes – Aqua Blue minipebble, WetEdge - Primera stone, Hydrazzo | Mediterranean Blue, Hydrazzo Classico | Oceana Blu​

Spa: ~1178 gallons (8-10 person)
Size: 7x9, 18" raised spa​
Seating: Split level depth all the way around (20-~24")​
Jets: Single per seat (hydro therapy parajets), 2 seats with multi parajets​
Pump: IntelliFloXF VSF 022056 (spa pump), TBD if we need to utilize both pumps for number of jets​
Blower: TBD; may just go with venturi stqand pipe at the pad​
Lighting: 1 microbrite​

EQUIPMENT
Pool/Spa Pump -- Pentair Intelliflo VSF Variable Speed and Variable Flow Pump (Model: 011056)​
Spa Pump -- Pentair IntellifloXF VSF 3HP 230V Variable Speed and Variable Flow Pump (Model: 022056)​
Filter -- Pentair Quad 100 D.E./Cartridge Filter sqft with NO backwash installed (Model: 188594)​
Heater -- Pentair MasterTemp 400K BTU Natural Gas Heater (Model: 460736)​
Controller -- Pentair IntelliCenter i10PS (Model: 521908-IC60)​
Pentair IntelliCenter i10PSIC60 Kit - Pool and Spa with Load Center and IC60​
Installing the IntelliCenter saves the electrician from installing a subpanel, timers, and switches.​
The IC-60 power/control cable plugs into the IpH control panel and the IpH control panel plugs into the IntelliCenter​
Chlorination / Salt System -- Pentair IntelliChlor (IC-60) (Model: 521105)​
Breakers for Controller panel - PA220GF GFCI BREAKER 2-POLE 20A (For Intelliflo Pumps) – (Model: PA220GF)​
pH Dosing System -- Pentair IntelliPH pH Controller (Model: 521377)​
LightingPentair MicroBrite Color LED Light - 12V - 100’ Cord fit a 1 1/2” standard pipe. (Model: 620425)​
Skimmer - Pentair Skimmer Bermuda ABS for Concrete 2" Slip (Model: 506631)​
Pour in place type lid​
Valve Actuators - Pentair IntelliValve Actuators (Model: 521485)​
Valves -- Jandy "no lube" Valves (Models: 4715, 4716,..)​
Check Valves -- Jandy check valves (Model: 7305)​
Water leveler (autofill) – Pentair T40BG or Paramount ParaLevel?​
Junction box – Intermatic Junction box for lights (nothing to do with IntelliCenter)​
Robot - Active 20/ Dolphin S200​
Suction Cleaner - Rebel?​

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ajw22

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Jul 21, 2013
23,660
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Your specs look pretty complete. Looks like you have been studying other build threads.

I would do a minimum of 2 skimmers located into the prevailing winds. Especially with no main drain. If you only have one skimmer and the skimmer gets clogged your pump can run dry and be damaged. And if your skimmer has problems your pool can be shutdown. With two skimmers one can have a problem and your pool can run fine until it is repaired.

I would skip the vacuum inlet. It is an entrapment hazard if the cover is ever broken off or left open. Your skimmer can always be a vacuum connection.
 

tomas21

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Jan 24, 2020
35
Southern California
Your specs look pretty complete. Looks like you have been studying other build threads.

I would do a minimum of 2 skimmers located into the prevailing winds. Especially with no main drain. If you only have one skimmer and the skimmer gets clogged your pump can run dry and be damaged. And if your skimmer has problems your pool can be shutdown. With two skimmers one can have a problem and your pool can run fine until it is repaired.

I would skip the vacuum inlet. It is an entrapment hazard if the cover is ever broken off or left open. Your skimmer can always be a vacuum connection.
Thx Allen..
  • If two skimmers were installed where would you locate them given our design? Wind comes from the east which is the right side of long 35' length?
  • I updated my specs based on the contract, we will have 3-4 returns and 2" double main suction at the deep end
  • Vacuum inlet.. i have gone back and forth...
Appreciate the feedback.
 

ajw22

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Jul 21, 2013
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Northern NJ
Pool Size
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Surface
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Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
2 Skimmers on the West wall, 3 returns on the East wall.

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ajw22

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Jul 21, 2013
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Northern NJ
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Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
What about returns on the baja to get stuff off and on the north end of pool to push towards skimmers?

You can do one but if you run a VS pump at low speed the water does not have much pressure to move debris with any weight. You will find the winds will move the debris around more then the return water flow will.

Just hit the baja with a brush to move the dirt into the main pool area and then let your robot pool cleaner get it. I think there are some robots who try to climb onto the baja to clean it.
 
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