Major Issues - don't even know where to start

Jrowan

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Hello all, I'm in need of major advice. I've been a pool owner for 2 years now and done all of the maintenance myself, but I'm at a point to where my pool is in a very poor state and I don't even know where to start to get it back in shape. I battled some yellow algae throughout 2020 and started having a small black algae problem late summer. I got sick w/ COVID in August and the pool went untouched for most of the month. The black algae really spread and the water went green. Once I was back on my feet, I shocked the pool heavily (it literally had zero chlorine in it when I started). Chlorine levels read great after that, but the water was still green. Local pool store ran my water and said I had copper in the water, likely due to the algaecide I was using to kill the black algae. I followed their instructions to no avail. This was back in Sept-Oct timeframe. Well, I got frustrated and pretty much gave up. I have not touched my pool, except for clearing skimmers, for the last 2 months. So it's green and yucky and I'll likely see black algae if I can get the color cleared up.
I'm willing to call a pro in if this is too big for myself to get squared away. I'm willing to do the work, but I really have no idea of where to even start. Advice would be much appreciated.
 
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mknauss

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Welcome to the forum!
You need to follow the SLAM Process. To do that, you need a proper test kit. I suggest the TF-100 A proper test kit is needed to get the accurate water chemistry results needed to follow the TFP protocols.
The copper is concerning. How have you 'followed their instructions to no avail'? Only way to rid the water of copper is to drain it and replace with fresh water.
I suggest you read ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry.
 

JJ_Tex

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+1 on what Marty said.

Step 1 is to get your own test kit, read up on info here, and stop going into the pool store.

Step 2 would be posting up your test results once your test kit arrives

After that we can help guide you to getting your pool back on track. I suspect you will need to do a partial drain (to drop the levels of copper and CYA if those are high), followed by a SLAM to get rid of algae, then working on a go forward plan of chlorinating your pool so you can keep it clear of algae.
 
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Dirk

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Hi J! And welcome to TFP. The others above have given you your first steps. I just wanted to give you some encouragement. First off, you've been "pool-stored." Let me guess, they sold you the stuff with the copper to rid your pool of the algae, right? And then they tell you that you have too much copper. Classic. That, and very similar stories, are what we hear about all the time when folks find us. I won't harp on that. That's all behind you now, and you are now in the right place.

Taking care of a pool is really easy. Contrary to what you've experienced so far. That wasn't your fault. I was totally intimidated by the prospect until I found this site. Fast forward: I now know how to test the water myself, how to calculate the chemical dosages required (soooooo easy with the TFP app, called Pool Math) and how to keep my pool crystal clear and algae free. A common misconception about pools is that algae happens once in a while, so you deal with it. FALSE. If you know how to take care of the water properly, which is what we teach here, you can say good-bye to algae forever! I used to get it all the time... not any more.

And here's the crazy part: I use only four ready available chemicals (chlorine, two acids and salt)! That's it. No expensive magic potions from the pool store. Ever. No shocking, ever. This has been true for over three years now. And what all the members of TFP experience.

So buy the recommended test kit. Get a hold of a Taylor SpeedStir. That will seem a bit frivolous, until you use it for the first time. Trust me on that. We all have one. And load up the Pool Math app. Pay the in-app upgrade (about $7, I think). Once those arrive, we'll teach you how to rid your pool of the copper and the algae. It's easy. You don't need a pro. In fact, a "pro" will likely just make things worse. While you're waiting for your kit, get started on Pool School. I like the eBook version over the webpage version, both have the same content, both are available on this page:


Oh, and we're going to need to know more about your pool and equipment, so please fill in your signature. Something like mine is most helpful.


Pool store methods are not sustainable. They are designed to sell you things, and then sell you more things. Their MOs virtually always lead to failure, requiring a water exchange to start over. Exactly as you are experiencing. But this will be the last time for that. Chin up. We got you now!
 
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Jrowan

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Wow, thanks everyone. I knew I was in the right place. I've been on the site off/on over the last couple of years whenever I've had to troubleshoot an issue. I did order a K-2006C, but I got it just as I was 'giving up' on my pool. I'll go ahead and pick up the Taylor Speedstir, upgrade my app, embellish my signature, and go through the educational links this week. I'll post back once I've got those steps done. Thanks again for everyone's help, I'll post back on this thread after I've done my homework. Excited to be part of the community!
 

Katodude

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Dont know where you are in the process, but I would also start stocking up on liquid chlorine. If you can get it in bulk, ie 2.5 or 5 gallon containers that would be great, if not 1 gallon jugs from a big box store would work.

Also dont know if it was mentioned but I would start adding chlorine to the pool. I believe the recommendation is 5ppm until you start testing. You dont want what you have to get worse while learning.
 

mknauss

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I believe the recommendation is 5ppm until you start testing. You dont want what you have to get worse while learning.
Only issue is the copper. Adding liquid chlorine if there is copper in the water could get it to stain the pool. Best to drain the pool water if there is copper in it, prior to it staining the pool surface.
 
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