Is this a floor return or a drain cover?

oakridge

Silver Supporter
Jan 16, 2017
142
Outside Philadelphia
#1
My PB was supposed to install three floor returns. I already have a separate main channel drain. I was very pleased about it all until I came home after the plaster job and saw what appeared to be three drain covers protruding from the bottom of the pool (one in the shallow end, one at the break and one in the deep end; again all separate from my main drain). Am I wrong in thinking that floor returns should be flat and level (even slightly depressed) with the pool floor? This is what the covers look like:

cover.jpg

This is what I expected:

return.jpg


If what I expected is what is supposed to be there, are there things I can do to retrofit what they have done? The issue I suspect now is that the mounting ring for the current covers is fixed in the plaster and so I have to have a cover that matches. The floor returns I have seen are not as big as these covers and so would not match the mounting bracket and holes they put in the pool. Maybe some online can create a custom lid for me that is flat and resembles the floor return. I really don't want to stub my toes and step over these monstrosities.
 

oakridge

Silver Supporter
Jan 16, 2017
142
Outside Philadelphia
#3
I fixed the images. These are sample pics. I am not sure if the pool actually has the above Hayward covers, but they look close to what I have. If I have the wrong thing, I am not looking to chip or replaster. So what options would I have to getting something flatter in its place? These stick up quite a bit and are pretty ugly.
 

oakridge

Silver Supporter
Jan 16, 2017
142
Outside Philadelphia
#5
So what options do I have to replace these that won't be a safety issue and not hang up my robot? I don't think I need a VGB compliant cover as these are returns. Maybe I need to get something custom made via an online 3D printer unless I can find something off the shelf.
 

jimmythegreek

Bronze Supporter
Aug 10, 2017
397
Succasunna, NJ
#7
Ask ur pb if they are threaded fittings or slip on fittings. There are a number of fittings that can thread in there the issue is any threaded or slip fitting is an add on and will be higher than flush. Find out and post back I'll do some looking for u
 

wjr75

LifeTime Supporter
Jun 7, 2013
879
IL
#9
All of my floor main drains in my spa, pool and wading pool have two each and are raised covers that are screwed on to the inlets.
 

oakridge

Silver Supporter
Jan 16, 2017
142
Outside Philadelphia
#10
Thanks, my drain is a channel drain so these fittings are definitely not what I expected for a floor return and just wrong. Maybe I can get a 3D printing of something flatter as everything else out there appears to be raised.
 

oakridge

Silver Supporter
Jan 16, 2017
142
Outside Philadelphia
#11
Ok, I've been searching extensively to find a low profile cover that will fit my existing pool floor returns that were botched by the PB. I found these online, but after ordering it I found that the retrofit adapter plate with the combined riser ring adds more height than the existing drain cover. Knowing this is supposed to be a floor return, I'd like to not use the riser ring/adapter plate combo for a low, non-toe-stubbing experience on my 3 returns (one of which is in the shallow end, one in the break and one in the deep end). Are there any universal adapter plates out there for individual purchase which would allow me to attach my pebble top cover to the Hayward ring embedded in the plaster (preferably clear or light gray)? Something similar to the black ring in the picture below?


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