Concrete vs Panels

whixkid41

Gold Supporter
May 26, 2018
32
Long Island, NY
Hi All,

After months of planning, getting quotes, I am ready to start writing checks. The landscaping company has ideas on using boulders as coping around 1/4 of the pool plus adding a waterfall, slide, etc. Basically lots of stuff along the pools edge. The question I have - does the pool build material matter?

I have 2 pool companies in mind. 1 does vinyl over poured concrete with rebar, the other does the panels (Fiberglass?) that are filled with concrete. Should I choose 1 over the other? The concrete over vinyl seems to make the most sense since its build like a house foundation. The issue I have is the company pouring concrete, their estimate is 4-5K higher due to the spill over SPA. In fairness, I haven't tried negotiating yet but I figured my best chance at negotiating is if I am willing to write a check right at that very moment.

Any advice?
 

Catanzaro

Platinum Supporter
TFP Guide
Jul 30, 2014
3,266
Monmouth County, New Jersey
their estimate is 4-5K higher due to the spill over SPA
Is the spa made out of concrete or your typical fiberglass/plastic type of composite. This does see a little high for a spa. Although, I have to tell you that a poured concrete wall is better construction. I picked the galvanized steel and looking back, concrete would have been better. Only reason why I went with the other PB was 2" plumbing, more returns, etc. which helps a lot.
 

sktn77a

Gold Supporter
May 16, 2010
1,148
Chapel Hill, NC
So, is this a vinyl liner pool with either concrete or fiberglass walls? If so, I would go with concrete every time, despite the increase cost. Any reason you aren't using plaster?
 

blakeusa

In The Industry
Jul 8, 2010
580
Ashford, CT
I believe the vinyl liner is more industry standard.

However on the rocks and boulders you need to have a very very good base of compacted gravel with a solid foundation to place the rock work on.

On concrete pools rocks and boulders can be placed on the bond beam or ledges where people install coping of pools if properly supported. I have one large rock on my coping and
another large boulder as a diving rock behind my coping, but placed on a 3 foot bed of compacted gravel.

And if you will have water features just note that not all rocks are created equal. Some are harder materials and others will break down over time or leach materials into the pool. There are other discussions about people with rock problems in and around their pools.

Rocks if done right can be beautiful and functional but must be supported with a vinyl or fiberglass pool.
 

PoolguyinCT

In The Industry
Jul 21, 2014
3,084
Connecticut
Panels, even steel are not load bearing & depending on concrete placement method may not be either..

A footer is needed for such features.

looking at your location, I have a pretty good guess as to your candidates.
 

Magvallo

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2016
52
Long island,NY
We went with concrete and liner. It’s built using special forms. Design choices and size are fully custom. Very happy with the decision. Plaster on Long Island is very expensive. We have a raised wall water feature which sits right on top of the concrete wall.

 

whixkid41

Gold Supporter
May 26, 2018
32
Long Island, NY
Thank you everyone for the replies & the pics!. After consulting here and with other folks who had pools installed, I went with the concrete with a vinyl liner. The concrete is loaded with rebar so its built like the foundation of a home. Plus the SPA they offer is top of the line - 24 jets plus a separate pump. Given the landscapers plans with boulder coping, this seemed the best option. Looks like a September install - have to wait on the permits and variance. In the meantime, I can start picking out automation equipment and a heater.

Thanks again!
 

Magvallo

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2016
52
Long island,NY
Great choice. I’m sure you will be happy with the end results. We built in sept too. Waited until springtime do the pavers. Gave the ground a good time to settle and we were swimming in May. Best of luck with your build!