Case study to determine root cause of Pentair mastertemp 400 not igniting

Asherk74

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Need to see the setup but at one end of the pipe you want to have a manifold with a pressure gauge that can read in 1/2 psi increments typically up to 30psi. You can find many gauges like that for fairly cheap. You also want to have a 1/4 turn shut off valve there so you can fine tune the pressure. Then at the other end you'll need some kind of adapter on a manifold to fill the line with compressed air. If you can get a hold of a pancake compressor then you can probably rig up some quick disconnect type fittings for filling. You can also simply cap one side of the line and put everything on the manifold with the pressure gauge. Whatever works best for you.

If the NG line is oprating at low pressure (0.5 psi or less), then it needs to hold 5psi air pressure for a minimum of 30mins with no drop. If the NG line is operating between 0.5 - 5.0 psi (high pressure gas line), then it needs to hold 1.5 times its operating pressure for 30mins with no drop. You should check local regulations in CA to see if there any stricter requirements.

While under pressure you can take a mixture of dish soap and water (mix it gently and don't make it bubbly) and flood every glued joint and manifold joint with it. If you see bubbles form around any of the glue joints, you have a leak. There's a commercial product called "Snoop" by Swagelok that is also a bubbling solution but it's really not worth it. Dish soap and water works fine.
Def a low pressure line, 8” WC or ~1/4 psi.
Was thinking something like this with the other end of line capped off. I think I can pump air in directly through this gauge.

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JoyfulNoise

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Yup, that’ll work. The standard fill stem should work if you have your own tire pressurizing gear. You can get the 15 or 30 psi gauge … maybe check to see if the 15psi gauge has better resolution. Realistically you only need to hold 5psi for 30mins and you’re golden. But do check all of your glue joints if you have any. Pin hole leaks can be very slow but snooping them with soapy water can easily reveal them.
 
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Asherk74

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Chlorine
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Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Completed!
Heater fired!!! Runs with no issues.
A lot more work than I could have ever imagined. Glad it’s over.
Thank you everyone for all your help, could not have done it without!!!!
 
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JoyfulNoise

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Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Completed!
Heater fired!!! Runs with no issues.
A lot more work than I could have ever imagined. Glad it’s over.
Thank you everyone for all your help, could not have done it without!!!!

Wooohooo :party:

Glad you got it done. At least now you know it’s been done correctly and you don’t have to worry about the gas line.
 
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