By owner build here...looking for the best recommendations for....everything?

ddoggphx

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2021
57
Phoenix AZ
So we are gonna GC our pool and the part that is hardest for me is equipment. I'm hoping this forum can give me guidance on a lot of things and help me kickstart my research on everything from SWG to lighting.

Our pool will be 30×15, with a 7x7 inset spa. Playpool depth with a sunshelf. Spa will have a spillover into the pool.

What are recommendations for the following equipment?

1. SWG system
2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options)
3. Filter
4. Robot pool cleaners (that do walls too)
5. Heater that can do spa, pool, or both
6. Fire bowls w/ without scuppers
7. Lighting (colors, remote, pattern)
8. Basketball goal ungrounded
9. Remote control system if not I'm item 2
10. Am I missing anything?

I'm super ADD so give me a crumb and I'll dig for days. Help me narrow my research, please!
 

ferretbone

In The Industry
May 24, 2016
161
tx
The pool builder will want to sell you three of these from one manufacturer because they get good bonuses and points at the end of the year. Jandy gives out free vaction trips. And anything Jandy is alway more exspensive on parts for repairs. Just remember that up front. Hayward has a three year warranty, even on lights.

Here are my favorites
1. SWG system ... intellichlor pentair
2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options) ... Intelliflo pentair hands down. No SVRS on anything you choose. Make life easier and get the same brand pump and
timer and light and you will love your remote options.

3. Filter ... Waterway1 then Pentair2 then hayward3.
4. Robot pool cleaners (that do walls too) ...
5. Heater that can do spa, pool, or both ... Master temp and Haywards newer heaters have a very small foot print. Stay away from raypac heaters
6. Fire bowls w/ without scuppers

7. Lighting (colors, remote, pattern) ...pentair or hayward...note the colors shows will be off if you mix and match led lights with other brand lights. And the white
red blue and I think pink vary between the two. Hayward offers colored rings to blend with the plaster but have a very noticeable lens under water when off. Pentair has a much thinner ring with a steatheir lens. Id go with pentair.

8. Basketball goal ungrounded
9. Remote control system if not I'm item 2 ... pantair or jandy
10. Am I missing anything?

Yes actuator valves youll need two .. pentair or jandy
You may want a blower for your spa, and you may want a booster pump for it as well.
 
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ddoggphx

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2021
57
Phoenix AZ
The pool builder will want to sell you three of these from one manufacturer because they get good bonuses and points at the end of the year. Jandy gives out free vaction trips. And anything Jandy is alway more exspensive on parts for repairs. Just remember that up front. Hayward has a three year warranty, even on lights.

Here are my favorites
1. SWG system ... intellichlor pentair
2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options) ... Intelliflo pentair hands down. No SVRS on anything you choose. Make life easier and get the same brand pump and
timer and light and you will love your remote options.

3. Filter ... Waterway1 then Pentair2 then hayward3.
4. Robot pool cleaners (that do walls too) ...
5. Heater that can do spa, pool, or both ... Master temp and Haywards newer heaters have a very small foot print. Stay away from raypac heaters
6. Fire bowls w/ without scuppers

7. Lighting (colors, remote, pattern) ...pentair or hayward...note the colors shows will be off if you mix and match led lights with other brand lights. And the white
red blue and I think pink vary between the two. Hayward offers colored rings to blend with the plaster but have a very noticeable lens under water when off. Pentair has a much thinner ring with a steatheir lens. Id go with pentair.

8. Basketball goal ungrounded
9. Remote control system if not I'm item 2 ... pantair or jandy
10. Am I missing anything?

Yes actuator valves youll need two .. pentair or jandy
You may want a blower for your spa, and you may want a booster pump for it as well.
Thank you!! I may reach out for more advice as I go along if that is OK
 

ddoggphx

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2021
57
Phoenix AZ
The pool builder will want to sell you three of these from one manufacturer because they get good bonuses and points at the end of the year. Jandy gives out free vaction trips. And anything Jandy is alway more exspensive on parts for repairs. Just remember that up front. Hayward has a three year warranty, even on lights.

Here are my favorites
1. SWG system ... intellichlor pentair
2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options) ... Intelliflo pentair hands down. No SVRS on anything you choose. Make life easier and get the same brand pump and
timer and light and you will love your remote options.

3. Filter ... Waterway1 then Pentair2 then hayward3.
4. Robot pool cleaners (that do walls too) ...
5. Heater that can do spa, pool, or both ... Master temp and Haywards newer heaters have a very small foot print. Stay away from raypac heaters
6. Fire bowls w/ without scuppers

7. Lighting (colors, remote, pattern) ...pentair or hayward...note the colors shows will be off if you mix and match led lights with other brand lights. And the white
red blue and I think pink vary between the two. Hayward offers colored rings to blend with the plaster but have a very noticeable lens under water when off. Pentair has a much thinner ring with a steatheir lens. Id go with pentair.

8. Basketball goal ungrounded
9. Remote control system if not I'm item 2 ... pantair or jandy
10. Am I missing anything?

Yes actuator valves youll need two .. pentair or jandy
You may want a blower for your spa, and you may want a booster pump for it as well.
"2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options) ... Intelliflo pentair hands down. No SVRS on anything you choose. Make life easier and get the same brand pump and
timer and light and you will love your remote options"

Can you please expand on that? Not sure I understand anything but the last part about loving the remote options...
 

JimMarshall

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TFP Guide
Jun 5, 2017
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Oil City PA
"2. VS pump for both pool and spa (bonus any remote control options) ... Intelliflo pentair hands down. No SVRS on anything you choose. Make life easier and get the same brand pump and
timer and light and you will love your remote options"

Can you please expand on that? Not sure I understand anything but the last part about loving the remote options...
If you do remote/automation, all of the equipment will need to be the same brand. For example, you couldn't use a Pentair Intellicenter controller with a Hayward pump and Jandy lighting.
 

ajw22

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TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
29,068
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
If you do remote/automation, all of the equipment will need to be the same brand.

Not exactly.

Filters are a commodity and can be mixed.

Jandy Aqualink automation can control Pentair IntelliFlo VS pumps.

Lights depend on the type and other manufactures like CMP have lights compatible with various automation.

 

ajw22

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TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
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Northern NJ
Pool Size
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Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Is this what you referenced foe the SWG? And if so is that all I need to purchase as equipment or is there more to it? Seems...simple?

Pentair 520555 IntelliChlor IC40 Salt Chlorine Generator Cell Amazon.com : Pentair 520555 IntelliChlor IC40 Salt Chlorine Generator Cell : Patio, Lawn & Garden

No, that is the cell only.

You also need either the standalone IntelliChlor Power Center or the power center integrated into the Pentair EasyTouch or IntelliCenter.


 

ddoggphx

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2021
57
Phoenix AZ
No, that is the cell only.

You also need either the standalone IntelliChlor Power Center or the power center integrated into the Pentair EasyTouch or IntelliCenter.



So that, yeah?
 

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ajw22

Gold Supporter
TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
29,068
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60

ajw22

Gold Supporter
TFP Guide
Jul 21, 2013
29,068
Northern NJ
Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
So why that SWG over other options?
It is a good high quality product.

There are others. Each product has its strengths and weaknesses.
 
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