Hi everyone,
My family just signed up with our PB in Houston, TX and I wanted to post our pool specifics and design to see if you guys can help us avoid mistakes or think of things we missed. And of course (hopefully) to get feedback as we go through the construction process. Thanks in advance to everyone (and thanks already for all the initial advice/help I was able to gather just from reading the wealth of information on this forum - I'm glad I found TFP!).
We have one 2 year old boy (and one on the way) and will generally be hosting family and friends at our house. No one is a diver and the pool is primarily for leisure and cooling off during the summer (we also will plan to play some water sports like basketball/volleyball). I've gone back and forth on the depth but I am only 5'9", my wife is 5'2" and the rest of our family is fairly short. We would like to have as much of the pool be usable as possible so we've gone with 3.5 feet to 4.5 feet but are wondering whether we should go to 5 feet instead. Our PB suggested that 3.5 to 4.5 was common/plenty for a leisure pool but would welcome feedback. The pool will be in some shade so not too worried about temperature (although we have the option of adding a chiller down the road if needed).
After reading this forum, we've opted for the SWG (against our PB's recommendation) but given our pavers/brushed concrete, we understand that the risk is lower. We do have a brick patio next to the pool but are not too concerned. Also, I work a lot (at least for now) and will not have time for maintenance so will likely be hiring a pool company to come weekly. We did opt for the in-floor cleaning to help minimize work in between visits. I also figure that one day I would like to be more hands on so the SWG and IFCS will help. We understand these newer A&A systems work very well (after checking with a local pool company as well). We also added a 2nd skimmer after reading some feedback on other threads.
I've attached some images here but one important change was to add sheer descents out of the pillars on the long side of the pool. Our design choices (funnily enough) were pretty similar to what the images/rendering show.
We are generally like the clean/rectangular aesthetic and just want the pool to look nice/be a fun place to have friends/family over (and of course for the kids to play). We will have a brick/covered patio right next to the pool (which I think eliminates the need for as much decking) and are trying to preserve as much of our backyard as possible to have a grassy area for the kids.
I've posted more detailed pool specs below, thank you all in advance!
Best,
TRR
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General pool specs:
15x30 "main" rectangular pool with a bump out in width for the tanning shelf and hot tub.
Depth is 3.5 to 4.5 feet.
Location:
7 feet from back of the house
7 feet from brick patio
3.5 feet from fence
12 feet from big tree
Shelf is 10 feet long, 6 feet wide
Hot tub is 10 feet x 5 feet + 12 inch wall (6 feet total)
Patio 10 feet by 6 feet (9 x 8.5 including coping)
Now for the more specific details directly from the PB (I'm just looking for someone with experience who can advise if we overlooked something obvious):
My family just signed up with our PB in Houston, TX and I wanted to post our pool specifics and design to see if you guys can help us avoid mistakes or think of things we missed. And of course (hopefully) to get feedback as we go through the construction process. Thanks in advance to everyone (and thanks already for all the initial advice/help I was able to gather just from reading the wealth of information on this forum - I'm glad I found TFP!).
We have one 2 year old boy (and one on the way) and will generally be hosting family and friends at our house. No one is a diver and the pool is primarily for leisure and cooling off during the summer (we also will plan to play some water sports like basketball/volleyball). I've gone back and forth on the depth but I am only 5'9", my wife is 5'2" and the rest of our family is fairly short. We would like to have as much of the pool be usable as possible so we've gone with 3.5 feet to 4.5 feet but are wondering whether we should go to 5 feet instead. Our PB suggested that 3.5 to 4.5 was common/plenty for a leisure pool but would welcome feedback. The pool will be in some shade so not too worried about temperature (although we have the option of adding a chiller down the road if needed).
After reading this forum, we've opted for the SWG (against our PB's recommendation) but given our pavers/brushed concrete, we understand that the risk is lower. We do have a brick patio next to the pool but are not too concerned. Also, I work a lot (at least for now) and will not have time for maintenance so will likely be hiring a pool company to come weekly. We did opt for the in-floor cleaning to help minimize work in between visits. I also figure that one day I would like to be more hands on so the SWG and IFCS will help. We understand these newer A&A systems work very well (after checking with a local pool company as well). We also added a 2nd skimmer after reading some feedback on other threads.
I've attached some images here but one important change was to add sheer descents out of the pillars on the long side of the pool. Our design choices (funnily enough) were pretty similar to what the images/rendering show.
We are generally like the clean/rectangular aesthetic and just want the pool to look nice/be a fun place to have friends/family over (and of course for the kids to play). We will have a brick/covered patio right next to the pool (which I think eliminates the need for as much decking) and are trying to preserve as much of our backyard as possible to have a grassy area for the kids.
I've posted more detailed pool specs below, thank you all in advance!
Best,
TRR
***
General pool specs:
15x30 "main" rectangular pool with a bump out in width for the tanning shelf and hot tub.
Depth is 3.5 to 4.5 feet.
Location:
7 feet from back of the house
7 feet from brick patio
3.5 feet from fence
12 feet from big tree
Shelf is 10 feet long, 6 feet wide
Hot tub is 10 feet x 5 feet + 12 inch wall (6 feet total)
Patio 10 feet by 6 feet (9 x 8.5 including coping)
Now for the more specific details directly from the PB (I'm just looking for someone with experience who can advise if we overlooked something obvious):
| POOL PLUMBING |
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| STEEL REINFORCING |
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| ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS |
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| GUNITE STRUCTURE |
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| DECKING |
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| DIMENSIONS | POOL | SPA | ||
| WIDTH | 20.50 | 4.50 | ||
| MAX. LENGTH | 30.00 | 10.00 | ||
| Depth 1 | 3.50 | N/A | ||
| Depth 2 | 4.50 | N/A | ||
| Depth 3 | N/A | |||
| AVERAGE DEPTH | 4.00 | 3.50 | ||
| PERIMETER | 103.00 | 29.00 | ||
| SURFACE AREA | 499.00 | 45.00 | ||
| INTERIOR AREA | 911.00 | 146.50 |
ID | DESCRIPTION | QTY |
#3610 | Price Book - Houston | 1 |
| BASE POOL | ||
#3564 | Geometric BP SS Sub Panel Included In Base Pool | 1 |
| CITY PERMITS | ||
#7892 | Houston | 1 |
| ENGINEERING | ||
#1930 | Proximity | 1 ea. |
| FENCE | ||
#8916 | Fence up to 2 section and self closing gates up to 2 this is replacing existing fence that is taken down to excavate the pool. no new boards etc. are included in this price. | 2 ea. |
| EXCAVATION | ||
#1968 | Dump Zone Fee | 1 ea. |
#223 | Access up Driveway to be Pressure Wash at Day of Rebar Installation Driveway to be pressure washed at day of rebar installation | 1 ea |
| MAIN DRAIN FOR POOL | ||
#2772 | Dedicated Suction to pump measurement from drain to equipment 2.5in pipe | 48 per.ft. |
| SKIMMER | ||
#3605 | Ultra Quickskim Skimmer 3/4in ball valve | 1 |
#3604 | Main Skimmer Run Total 2" and 1" pipe | 22 per.ft. |
#7189 | Pool Cleaner line must be purchased on all pools 1.5in pipe | 25 per.ft. |
#2824 | Add Additional Skimmer with 1in return and ball valve | 1 ea. |
#7192 | Additional Skimmer Plumbing Runs (3/4" pipe per ft.) | 65 per.ft. |
| FILL TYPES MUST PICK ONE | ||
#2780 | Auto Fill Line | 80 per.ft. |
| MAIN POOL PUMP | ||
#199 | Jandy VS Plus Pump Variable Speed 2.7 THP 150 gpm at 50 ft. (Includes required GFCI Breaker) 150 gpm at 50 ft. of head | 1 ea. |
| FILTER TYPE(S) | ||
#204 | Cartridge 460 sq.ft. max flow 150 gpm | 1 ea. |
| LIGHTING | ||
#8158 | Jandy Watercolor 12V. LED Pool Light 100' | 1 ea |
#2586 | Nicheless LED 12v 24 watts light each | 1 ea. |
#2594 | 300 Watt Transformer | 1 ea. |
#2596 | Water Bonding Nicheless Light | 1 |
| TIMERS AND AUTOMATION | ||
#2535 | I-Q904 Pool Spa I-Aqualink Client has gone over in detail that controller will handle all items needed to operate the pool in the manner they desire. | 1 ea. |
| HEATERS - HEAT PUMPS - CHILLERS | ||
#2555 | 400,000 BTU GAS Heater and non corrosive check valve Client understand they must get gas meter upgraded at their expense. | 1 ea. |
| GUNITE | ||
#19795 | 14" Wide Pool Beam | 1 ea. |
#2710 | Column(s) | 2 ea. |
| GUNITE - STEPS-BENCHES-TANNING SHELVE(S) & BEACH ENTRY | ||
#2612 | Tanning Shelf (ea) | 1 ea. |
#2605 | Bench #1 (per ft.) | 7.5 per.ft. |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH (PER LN.FT.) | ||
#3672 | 12" Raised Wall Steel and Gunite | 15 ft |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH COPING (PER LN.FT.) | ||
#9468 | LA SCALA GRAY 16X32 PAVER | 15 ln.ft. |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH VENEERING (PER SQ.FT) | ||
#10374 | 6X24 SILVER FOX LEDGER (KSLE-23) Ledgestone | 24.5 sq.ft. |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH #2 (PER LN.FT.) | ||
#3672 | 12" Raised Wall Steel and Gunite | 6 ft |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH COPING #2 (PER LN.FT.) | ||
#9468 | LA SCALA GRAY 16X32 PAVER | 7 ln.ft. |
| RAISED WALLS 12 INCH #2 VENEERING (PER SQ.FT) | ||
#10374 | 6X24 SILVER FOX LEDGER (KSLE-23) Ledgestone | 18 sq.ft. |
| CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR GAS DRAINS AND ELECTRIC | ||
#7951 | Drainage Permits Decking | 1 |
#3606 | Master Plumber 4in. Area Drains With Downspout Connection (ALL CITY JOBS) Client understands this is an estimate on the length of pipe needed anything less PB to credit back, anything more client to pay. | 80 per.ft. |
#2756 | City Gas Line - Includes up to 10 feet, City Gas Permit, T & P Gas Valve, and one Regulator) | 105 per.ft. |
#3617 | Electric Permits-and 360 Degree Ground | 1 |
| POOL COPING (PER LNFT) | ||
#9468 | LA SCALA GRAY 16X32 PAVER | 66 ln.ft. |
| POOL WATERLINE (SQ.FT) | ||
#19155 | Seabreeze Mix Series Light Mix 1x1 (LTSSBLMIX1) | 32 sq.ft. |
| TILE AND COPING - GROUT COLOR,CUTS AND EXTRAS | ||
#2838 | Colored Grout Coping Colored Grout: 78 Sterling Silver (Silver Shimmer) | 1 Included |
#7258 | Colored Grout Tile Colored Grout: 78 Sterling Silver (Silver Shimmer) | 1 Included |
| DECKING AND DRAINAGE | ||
#8328 | Mastic | 1 ea. |
#2946 | Deck Coating per sq.ft. 400 sq.ft. min. | 404 sqft |
#17842 | Extra Forming For Concrete Stepping Pads | 24 sq.ft. |
| SPA'S | ||
#2649 | Standard Spa With 4 Jets Venturi with 1hp Blower | 1 ea. |
#2650 | Extra Spa Jet for standard spa | 2 ea. |
#11245 | Spa Plumbing Runs | 55 ln. ft. |
| SPA COPING (PER LNFT) | ||
#9468 | LA SCALA GRAY 16X32 PAVER | 16.5 ln.ft. |
| SPA TILE LINE (PER SQ.FT) | ||
#19155 | Seabreeze Mix Series Light Mix 1x1 (LTSSBLMIX1) | 15 sq.ft. |
| SPA LIGHT (ONE MUST BE PURCHASED) | ||
#2656 | 12watt MINI Color LED Light for Spa | 1 ea. |
| SPA SPILLWAYS | ||
#3240 | Open spillway per. foot | 14.5 sq.ft. |
| SPA SPILLWAY TILE (PER SQ.FT.) | ||
#19157 | Seabreeze Mix Series Light Mix 1x1 (LTSSBLMIX1) | 22 sq.ft. |
| WATER FEATURES | ||
#3382 | Gushers (need 18 gpm per gusher)(ea.) | 2 ea. |
#7173 | Loop Plumbing 2.5" Pipe to 1.5" Pipe | 29 per.ft. |
| SHEERS | ||
#2659 | Sheer Descent 1' (need 15 gpm) | 2 ea. |
#2662 | Sheer Descent 3' (need 45 gpm) | 1 ea. |
#7179 | Sheer Descent Plumbing Run 1' to 6' 1.5" pipe | 118 ln.ft. |
| WATER FEATURES PUMP(S) | ||
#19387 | Jandy VS Plus Pump Variable Speed 1.85 THP 100 gpm at 40 ft. (Includes required GFCI Breaker) - (Water Feature) 100 gpm at 50 ft. of head | 1 ea. |
#7181 | 2.5in. Suction Line for Booster Pump 140gpm. | 46 ln.ft. |
| FITTINGS COLOR | ||
#19389 | Grey Fittings | 1 |
| INTERIOR SURFACE | ||
#7607 | Platinum Blue Platinum Blue | 1 |
| SANITIZERS | ||
#123 | Inline Chlorinator | 1 ea. |
#945 | Jandy Chlorine Generator Customer has decided to do saltwater against PB recommendations. Customer needs to seal coping and any porous materials around the pool at time of completion and every 2 to 3 years after. No warranty due to saltwater damage will be offered by PB. All other warranties are still in effect. | 1 ea |
| AUTOMATIC POOL CLEANERS | ||
#2698 | A&A In floor Cleaning System | 1 |
#949 | A&A In Floor System Plumbing Runs 2" pipe |
