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Thread: Which PoolPilot Power Level Setting

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    Which PoolPilot Power Level Setting

    I have the PoolPilot Total Digital with ORP. The problem I find with ORP is that it swings the Free Chloine level (FC) around too much depending on the weather, sunny, overcast, or very dark clouds. This might be due to the fact that when the Sun is out it is very strong, as we live in Honolulu, and when it is dark it is very, very, dark. Our pool is 10,000 gals with an SC-60.

    I have to agree with others that ORP is not the best way to set a SWG pool, interesting to know the number but not that useful in controlling FC levels,

    Target FC in both my Pool and my friends is 4.6 to 5.0. Our pools are crystal clear and for once his dogs have no skin rashes at this level and they swim daily. They are very happy with this level (CyA is 30) as they have literally spent thousands on having these rashes treated and now no longer appear. I suffer from ear infections, very common in Hawaii even among the young due to the humidity year round, I no longer get these infections so I to am happy at this FC level. This gives an approximate HOCl (as ppm Cl2) level of 0.077.

    I help my friend with their pool and he has an Aquapure 1400 and a 20,000 gal pool. He has no ORP function and the pool is set at 90% for 8 hours (and yes I know 90% is very high). His chlorine maintains the same level day in day out, give, or take, a very small fluctuation.

    The great thing about the PoolPilot is that it can switch from production % to ORP. I now switch to ORP only when we need to impress people who come over, these include but are not limited to attorneys and some doctors.

    As electricity here is around .35c a kilowatt, I try to run the pool for 4 ½ hours giving it a 1 ½ times turn.

    Both pools lose on average 2.2 ppm FC per day. I created a spreadsheet based on chlorine production in lbs at specific power settings, 1, 2, and 3.

    My assumption is that it needs 0.267045471 of an oz to create 0.2 FC per 10,000 gals. I hope that is correct, please correct me if I am wrong in this assumption.

    With the aim of maintaining a more consistent FC level, the unit is currently set at 64% at power level 2, if set at Power Level 3 it would be around 51%. As the acid feeder needs to catch up to the chlorine production, is it better to keep it at 64% at power level 2, or to increase it to power level 3 at 51%? Or should I increase the run time; something I do want to do as it will up my electric bill?

    Which of the two Power settings at these different levels would give the cell the longest life or would it be the same? Final question is how many "On Hours" is an SC-60 cell expected to last for?

    ChemGeek, if you would like me to send a copy of the spreadsheet file please PM and send me your email. I am sure you can improve upon it. It offers a slightly more accurate way to get the setting right first time (I think and hope). It also allows one to evaluate different SWG units and their sizes versus the size of pool and their desired pump run times. This might be useful for first-time buyers or users. As I am no programmer the spreadsheet is a work in progress but I think it is fairly accurate, but am not sure.

    Please note: I am only willing to send the spreadsheet to ChemGeek as I believe he will know what to do with it. To others please do not request or PM me as I do not have the time to reply. Thank you.

    Aloha.
    10,000 gal plaster pool,3/4 hp WhisperFlo pump, Sta-Rite Great White GW9500 pool cleaner, Hayward 300 lb Sand Filter
    Use Magenta Stuff for Iron and Silica control.
    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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    Re: Which PoolPilot Power Level Setting

    My apologies I should have done a search.

    I searched "Chlorine Loss" and found this post:


    whats-a-more-efficient-way-to-run-a-swg-cell-t6642.html?hilit=chlorine loss


    Most of my questions are answered in that post. I re-calculated my loss and it is only 1.6 FC per day so, using my spreadsheet, I can lower "Power Setting" to 1 and run it at 61%. I am sure this will change in the summmer.

    I think running at a lower power will alleviate the issue of acid feed problems. I would like to cut my run time on the pump to 3 hours = 1 turn; this should save around $240, per year, in electricity used by the pump. This would then mean I need to set the production rate at 91%. However as the trade winds normally blow at 16 -24 mph the pool might not be as clear and from experience lowers the ORP. I suppose more debris in the pool lowers the ORP or so it seems. So 4 1/2 hour it will be, at power setting 1 and a production level of 61%.

    Sorry if I wasted your time.

    Aloha.
    10,000 gal plaster pool,3/4 hp WhisperFlo pump, Sta-Rite Great White GW9500 pool cleaner, Hayward 300 lb Sand Filter
    Use Magenta Stuff for Iron and Silica control.
    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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    Re: Which PoolPilot Power Level Setting

    Changed my mind.

    I will go back to ORP set at 690 at a power setting of 1 (the unit should last longer), for 4 1/2 hours run-time.

    Why? Well if I drop dead for some reason 90% of pool maintenance persons do not understand ORP, so they will leave it alone, I hope. I have prepared a pool maintenance manual for my wife and children in the event of my passing. I will a least know that this will then keep the pool well sanitized for my grand-children.

    Yes, the chlorine level does flutuate quite a bit 4 -5 FC, but still within the realm of good algae and sanitation control.

    So I have gone full circle in writing this post but it has shown me that there is a place for ORP control. I did however get to create a spreadsheet that showed me that I can run my unit at power level one so I suppose it was worth the exercise.

    The only issue I see is that the ORP and pH control units need to be cleaned weekly, we have soft water, bi-weekly for those of you with hard water, and re-threaded with teflon tape and how many pool people do you think might do that?

    Oh well.
    10,000 gal plaster pool,3/4 hp WhisperFlo pump, Sta-Rite Great White GW9500 pool cleaner, Hayward 300 lb Sand Filter
    Use Magenta Stuff for Iron and Silica control.
    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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