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Thread: Liquidator "WS" Poll

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    Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Liquidator owners: We need to hear from you.

    "Yes" if you have any white stuff in your LQ on a normal basis <edit> and it effect the performance of your LQ. <end of edit>
    "No" if you don't have any "White Stuff" in your LQ on a normal basis.
    "6%" do you use 6% bleach in your LQ
    "12%" do you use 12% bleach in your LQ
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    can we define "have WS"?

    My tubes are milky white, but it doesnt seem to be affecting flow to/from the LQ. The LQ itself doesnt have any WS in it (that I can see). Not sure if thats a "dont have WS" or not.

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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Yes on the WS, and 6%.

    The problem with the poll is that you will not be able to tie the Yes/No to the 6%/12%.
    10K White Plaster Pool Built in 2007. Hayward Pump and DE Filter, Hayward Navigator, Liquidator (Removed due to issues), Solar Blanket, BBB user.

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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Correct, that can be another poll.

    I also did a quick edit, "Yes" if the WS is impacting the performance of your LQ.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    6% bleach, running it for 3 months, no white deposits at all, and my tubing is clear as the day I installed it.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Id be interested in how to keep the tubing clear........mine was milky after only a weeks worth of use, at the time I was using 6%. ive since "upgraded" to 12%.

    Something of note: I didnt see a massive increase in the amount of FC in my pool with the increase to 12% concentration. Im not sure if its environmental (it got hotter and sunnier around when I started with the 12%) or if its just a limitation of the LQ (based on my runtimes of 9 hours/day).

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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I have been using my Liquidator for only one month, but I have not seen any WS to speak of.

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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I use 6%

    I have some accumulation on the bottom and a layer inside the funnel, but no impact on performance. Running uninterrupted ~5 months.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I don't know if it makes a difference, but maybe people can say what brand of bleach they are using. I am using the Walmart (ultra) brand, 6% bleach.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    When I used 6%, it was WalMart Ultra

    Since I switched to 12%, its been Blue Shield liquid chlorine in the 5 gallon jugs.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I have cloudy tubes, but no WS that is affecting the LQ. I switched from 6%-12% because I can only get the flow up to 3.5 and the 6% wasn't feeding enough CL.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabot
    Correct, that can be another poll.

    I also did a quick edit, "Yes" if the WS is impacting the performance of your LQ.
    IMHO the poll should give three options:
    1. No WS
    2. WS w/o negative effects
    3. WS w/ negative effects.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by heatmisr
    I have cloudy tubes, but no WS that is affecting the LQ. I switched from 6%-12% because I can only get the flow up to 3.5 and the 6% wasn't feeding enough CL.
    The WS does affect your LQ, because otherwise, you should be able to get flow rates of 4 and 5.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I've read a few posts where people were struggling to get more than a 3 on the meter right after installation. I think there are other things that can affect this besides the WS, so I don't think that just because someone doesn't get high pressure that they have a WS problem.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    I have no WS and am running 6%. I have been using my LQ for two years now and have had no issues at all.

    Sorry, after logging in I noticed that I could click on the polling button at the top of the post. I have done so.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Correct, the flow is affected by much more then just the "WS".

    As for the poll, I believe the whole discussion here about the "WS" has been centered on a perceived weakness in the LQ. IMHO, to include "2. WS w/o negative effects" is pointless at this time. We are trying to identify a critical issue with the performance of the LQ which you brought to our attention. Since the issue seems to revolve around the water chemistry, there most likely will not be a universal solution that applies to every pool. As for including the chlorine strength used, I thought there might be a connection.

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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Water_man
    Quote Originally Posted by heatmisr
    I have cloudy tubes, but no WS that is affecting the LQ. I switched from 6%-12% because I can only get the flow up to 3.5 and the 6% wasn't feeding enough CL.
    The WS does affect your LQ, because otherwise, you should be able to get flow rates of 4 and 5.
    No, it doesn't. That is as high as it would go since installation. My problem is that my pump is too close to the pool. No resistance. Common with AGP's.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by heatmisr
    Quote Originally Posted by Water_man
    Quote Originally Posted by heatmisr
    I have cloudy tubes, but no WS that is affecting the LQ. I switched from 6%-12% because I can only get the flow up to 3.5 and the 6% wasn't feeding enough CL.
    The WS does affect your LQ, because otherwise, you should be able to get flow rates of 4 and 5.
    No, it doesn't. That is as high as it would go since installation. My problem is that my pump is too close to the pool. No resistance. Common with AGP's.
    Heatmisr, if you haven't already done so, you might try removing the check valve on the inlet side. It will increase the flow. Since your Liquidator is probably below the water level of your pool, it is not required.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by mrafal
    Heatmisr, if you haven't already done so, you might try removing the check valve on the inlet side. It will increase the flow. Since your Liquidator is probably below the water level of your pool, it is not required.
    Actually, that's backwards. It is not required if the LQ is above water level. The best I could do was to partially close the skimmer valve. That got me up to 3.5. With the valve fully open I get no flow.
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    Re: Liquidator "WS" Poll

    Only 18 LQ users?

    Out of 18: 11 had no "WS" leaving 7 whom has "WS".

    Interesting to see most use 6% vs. 12%.
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