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Hello everyone:
My old Pentair Challenger 1HP pump is cracked and I am going to replace it this year. Getting good information from the pool store is impossible since they all want to sell me a Hayward EcoStar or TriStar VS pump.
Here is my setup:
18'x36' rectangular pool which holds 29000 Gallons (maybe 26687 depending on the exact geometry)
My turnover rate in 10 hours is 48.6 GPM for 29000 Gallons (maybe 51 GPM for 9 hours of 26687 Gallons)
I have 1-1/2" lines which I have read should be kept at 6-8 ft/s or 38-51 GPM.
I am therefore using 50 GPM for my desired flow rate.
Head Losses:
I have a Hayward SP220T Sand Filter rated at 60 GPM which looks to have a head loss of 12.2 ft according to information on this site (comparable Pentair unit from the Hydraulics sticky)
I measure 52 ft of suction line on my return, and 77 ft of pressure side piping approximately for a total of 129 ft or 130 ft. Using 16 ft of head per 110' of 1-1/2" pipe at 8 ft/s (information from Hydraulics sticky) I get 18.76 ft of head.
I estimate a 1HP pump to have a 9 ft head loss factor.
Total Head Loss = 12.2+18.76+9 = 39.96 = 40 ft.
So it looks like I should be looking at a pump that can deliver 50 GPM at 40 ft of head to turnover the entire pool in 9 - 10 hours per day.
If I look at the chart for a Jandy FloPro FHPM.75 (See http://www.zodiacpoolsystems.ca/~/media/Zodiac/Global/Downloads/SL/SL6206.ashx) it seems to line up with the curve pretty well although I am not really sure what the grey curve represents in the chart? Anyone? A Hayward Super Pump SP2607X10 would also seem to do the trick (See https://www.hayward-pool.com/prd/In-Ground-Pool-Pumps-Super-Pump-_10201_10551_13004_-1_14002__I.htm). However the Jandy is running at 3/4 HP so would therefore draw less electricity?
Question about 2-speed pumps:
For all the 2-speed pumps, the low-speed curves don't seem to cover the 40-ft of head even at really low flow rates? Should I therefore not consider a two speed pump? I wanted to run the pump at 50 GPM for 9-10 hours per day as per the above calculation and then run it at low speed the rest of the day to circulate the water. Is that correct?
Any pump recommendations or math corrections would be appreciated.
Thanks
Derek
derekmjenkins
My old Pentair Challenger 1HP pump is cracked and I am going to replace it this year. Getting good information from the pool store is impossible since they all want to sell me a Hayward EcoStar or TriStar VS pump.
Here is my setup:
18'x36' rectangular pool which holds 29000 Gallons (maybe 26687 depending on the exact geometry)
My turnover rate in 10 hours is 48.6 GPM for 29000 Gallons (maybe 51 GPM for 9 hours of 26687 Gallons)
I have 1-1/2" lines which I have read should be kept at 6-8 ft/s or 38-51 GPM.
I am therefore using 50 GPM for my desired flow rate.
Head Losses:
I have a Hayward SP220T Sand Filter rated at 60 GPM which looks to have a head loss of 12.2 ft according to information on this site (comparable Pentair unit from the Hydraulics sticky)
I measure 52 ft of suction line on my return, and 77 ft of pressure side piping approximately for a total of 129 ft or 130 ft. Using 16 ft of head per 110' of 1-1/2" pipe at 8 ft/s (information from Hydraulics sticky) I get 18.76 ft of head.
I estimate a 1HP pump to have a 9 ft head loss factor.
Total Head Loss = 12.2+18.76+9 = 39.96 = 40 ft.
So it looks like I should be looking at a pump that can deliver 50 GPM at 40 ft of head to turnover the entire pool in 9 - 10 hours per day.
If I look at the chart for a Jandy FloPro FHPM.75 (See http://www.zodiacpoolsystems.ca/~/media/Zodiac/Global/Downloads/SL/SL6206.ashx) it seems to line up with the curve pretty well although I am not really sure what the grey curve represents in the chart? Anyone? A Hayward Super Pump SP2607X10 would also seem to do the trick (See https://www.hayward-pool.com/prd/In-Ground-Pool-Pumps-Super-Pump-_10201_10551_13004_-1_14002__I.htm). However the Jandy is running at 3/4 HP so would therefore draw less electricity?
Question about 2-speed pumps:
For all the 2-speed pumps, the low-speed curves don't seem to cover the 40-ft of head even at really low flow rates? Should I therefore not consider a two speed pump? I wanted to run the pump at 50 GPM for 9-10 hours per day as per the above calculation and then run it at low speed the rest of the day to circulate the water. Is that correct?
Any pump recommendations or math corrections would be appreciated.
Thanks
Derek
derekmjenkins