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    2 of 3 B's?

    Is is alright to use the borax and baking soda, but still use my chlorine feeder? I don't know if I'm ready to give that up, its just too convenient. I find that my CYA level stays at around 40 all the time.
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    As I've read here several times "Chlorine is Chlorine". If you are not seeing any CYA increase and you are using trichlor pucks you must be replacing enough water through backwash, splash out and evaporation to keep CYA steady. The other possibility is Cal hypo pucks which won't increase CYA but will increase Calcium hardness. If thats the case you need to watch your CA level. There is no penalty for being only a BB.
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    teppy,

    If you REALLY are able to keep your CYA at 40, then you should be able to keep using the pucks and chlorine feeder. But realize that you will be spending quite a bit more money on the chlorine pucks that you would on liquid chlorine.

    eplacing enough water through backwash, splash out and evaporation to keep CYA steady
    You can lose CYA through backwashing and splash out. Evaporation, unfortunately, has no effect on CYA levels.

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    Trichlor and bleach actually cost about the same if you ignore the cost of water replacement to keep the CYA level from getting too high and borax to keep the PH from getting too low.

    There is simply no way that CYA can remain constant when using a trichlor tablet feeder. CYA might go up slowly enough that you can live with it for quite some time but CYA will go up.

    In any case none of that has anything to do with borax and baking soda. Both of them are fine to use with any source of chlorine.
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    teppy... there is nothing wrong with using the pucks. Testing is the key to the pool, watch the CYA if you get to 50 I would stop using the pucks. Also watch the PH it will probably fall some, the pucks are acidic as you probably know and Borax would be a good choice to raise the PH. The Baking soda will raise the PH but also raise your TA.
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    I don't know how my CYA stays in the 40 range, I only add water about once every week and a half or so, depending on how much it rains. My Ch stays at around 250. I have a raised bond beam with two spillways. I don't know if that helps or not.
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    Teppy,

    There is simply no way that CYA can remain constant when using a trichlor tablet feeder. CYA might go up slowly enough that you can live with it for quite some time but CYA will go up.

    In any case none of that has anything to do with borax and baking soda. Both of them are fine to use with any source of chlorine.
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    I use trichlor pucks and bleach.

    My pool starts out with 0 CYA when we open in April. I add enough to get CYA = 30. At the end of the season it runs at CYA = 40 and that's what I close with. Beats me what happens to that CYA over winter.

    At any rate, my feeder is set to 1/4 flow and I add liquid bleach to maintain a FC = 3 level. I rarely shock, if ever. With the dogs I do get a lot of backsplash which requires refilling at least once a week.

    YMMV. In our pool and with our usage the trichlor has not presented a problem.
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    I use bleach most of the time, use the trichlor pucks in the feeder only during the vacation weeks.
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    krcossin, might I suggest using Cal-hypo pucks instead of the trichlor when you are away.

    my reasoning, CYA is best in a 20ppm range (30-50/60-80), while CH is a 200ppm range (250-450 is acceptable). each tablet pretty much adds 1ppm CH or CYA per. so after 1 week, assuming going through 3 tablets, you have gone up 15% CYA, or 1.5% CH of acceptable range.
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    Cal-hypo puck tend to be difficult to find and, more importantly, tend to dissolve way too quickly to be suitable for vacation usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkeRay
    each tablet pretty much adds 1ppm CH or CYA per.

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    recheck you math on this one!

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