Pool renderings

[nuclear]

Received these from the builder we are going to go with. Still not too late to change the design though so we are open to suggestions.

40x20
Hayward Ecostar
Hayward Aquarite
Hayward Sharkv
Hayward Progrid DE48
Raypac Heat pump R8350ti
2" PVC
vinyl over steps
bench
8' deep end
3 returns minimum

Haven't picked out pavers yet. Welcome to ideas/pictures on these as well. Will either go with Techo Bloc or Cambridge.

 

[BoDarville]

nuclear:

Looks like a nice setup. I don't see anything "gimmicky" that jumps out at me in your list. Don't see a pool light, though. If it were me, I would add that along with a 4th return.

 

[nuclear]

Didn't list everything as I am at work and don't have the contract with me. They include a basic 500w light.

And I misspoke on the returns, there are 5. I meant to say 3 skimmers.


Thanks

 

[jblizzle]

The Ecostar is likely overkill since I do not see anything the would require varying amounts of water flow (waterfeatures, spas, etc).

How much is your electricity? Might save a good bit of money just going with a smaller 2-speed pump.

Any idea of the pool's volume? Going with the 60 sqft DE might be a good idea as well and not likely much more $.

Are all skimmers and drains plumbed separately to the equipment pad? 3 skimmers seems kind of excessive ... you may need to run a large pump just to keep them all working well.

 

[NoFear95]

Monster pool!!

 

[Isaac-1]

Looks nice, if it were me I would add a couple of extra return fittings what were backed with dummy pipes to allow the addition of nicheless LED lights later on if you want them.

 

[nuclear]

The Ecostar is likely overkill since I do not see anything the would require varying amounts of water flow (waterfeatures, spas, etc).

How much is your electricity? Might save a good bit of money just going with a smaller 2-speed pump.

Any idea of the pool's volume? Going with the 60 sqft DE might be a good idea as well and not likely much more $.

Are all skimmers and drains plumbed separately to the equipment pad? 3 skimmers seems kind of excessive ... you may need to run a large pump just to keep them all working well.

You are correct, there are no other water features. The pump is what the builder supplies. Electric rates on Long Island are some of the highest in the country, but if you buy certain VSP's you get a $400 rebate from the power company.

No clue what the volume would be. Would it be advantageous to go with the 60?

Skimmers and drains are plumbed separately.

 

[nuclear]

Looks nice, if it were me I would add a couple of extra return fittings what were backed with dummy pipes to allow the addition of nicheless LED lights later on if you want them.

Interesting idea.

 

[jblizzle]

how deep does the pool get?

I would estimate you are around 22k gallons. For that size pool, the minimum DE filter we would recommend is 60 sqft. This will reduce how often you have to clean the filter. But, for a shorter season, you might be fine with the smaller filter, just have to clean more often ... There should be < $75 difference between the 2 and the larger one should make life easier.

With a $400 rebate, that makes the choice of a VS pump much more worthwhile ... we get a whopping $0 rebate where I am.

 

[nuclear]

8' in the deep end

 

[jblizzle]

OK, my estimate of 22k was based on an average of 4' ... so you may be a little more than 22k and I would CERTAINLY then recommend at least the 60 sqft DE filter.

 

[linen]

jbliz beat me...

Guessing here, but I think your pool is about 24000 gallons. As jbliz said, I would go with a larger DE filter, we would recommend a minimum of 68 sq. ft. DE filter for that volume pool.

The superpump vs or the maxflo vs will likely work if you do not have high volume water features.

 

[nuclear]

I'll look into the 60sqft DE, builder is coming over our house tomorrow anyway.

What are the reasons behind not going with the Ecostar?

 

[jblizzle]

The superpump vs or the maxflo vs will likely work if you do not have high volume water features.

True. But, wonder if they are too new to be recognized for a rebate? Or maybe the rebate is much less $ to not make it worth it initially.

The Ecostar is a HUGE pump on high speed and you have no need to ever be running that high. They are also expensive. As linen mentioned, there are a couple much smaller VS pumps that are now available that would be cheaper, but not sure if the rebate changes that story.

 

[nuclear]

Just checked, rebate applies to all of the following Hayward pumps:

Variable Speed Hayward 2.00 TriStar Energy Solution SP322063EEV Select either variable speed drive: SP3220VSC (Stand-Alone) or SP3220VSCAQL (for use with Hayward Pro Logic controller).
Variable Speed Hayward 2.00 EcoStar SP3400VSP
Variable Speed Hayward 1.50 Super Pump VS SP2600VSP
Variable Speed Hayward 1.50 Max-Flo VS SP2300VSP
Variable Speed Hayward 2.00 EcoStar w/ SVRS SP3400VSPVR

 

[harleysilo]

Have you seen the treadtex liner material? It has just the slightest texture to it vs. regular liner surface BUT it makes all the difference in the slipperiness of the steps. IF i could do my liner over i would get it ALL made out of tread-tex and have no border, we slip n slide all over the shallow end trying to play volleyball.

We chose the tread-tex pattern we liked, and that determined what choices we had for the rest of the liner to get them to match. We went with Blue Granite, it does not look like what it does in the picture below, it looks just like the blue granite liner material.

http://stcyrpoolandspa.com/vinyl-liners/options/ bottom of that page are two examples
http://elite.surfthepool.com/wp-content ... Liners.pdf page 31 shows more options in tread-tex.

 

[nuclear]

Would consider treadtex, but right now we are seriously thinking about getting a sandstone liner and I don't think it is available in that color.

 

[jblizzle]

If it is a $400 rebate for all of those, I think the 1.5 Super Pump might be plenty of power at it is likely $200-300 cheaper than the Ecostar upfront.