I'm going to do a dye test on the inside of the housing to see where the leak is. Any tips advice in advance? My estimate of water loss might be off. I'm actually doing a bucket test right now. I put the bucket in at noon. I'll measure at noon tomorrow.
Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday loss)
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Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
The water in the light should not have anything to do with any leak. The light is a sealed unit. However, you should turn off the breaker that goes to the light until the light is fixed.
A pool leak is most likely in the liner. It could also be in the plumbing, or the light conduit.
The water in the light should not have anything to do with any leak. The light is a sealed unit. However, you should turn off the breaker that goes to the light until the light is fixed.
A pool leak is most likely in the liner. It could also be in the plumbing, or the light conduit.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
If I seal on the returns (plugs) and skimmer (gizmo) and do another bucket test I can narrow the leak down to the pool liner, drain and light correct? Sorry for the questions. I'm new. Trying to learn. If the light conduit is the problem do I need to drain the pool below the light to fix it?
JamesW said:
If I seal on the returns (plugs) and skimmer (gizmo) and do another bucket test I can narrow the leak down to the pool liner, drain and light correct? Sorry for the questions. I'm new. Trying to learn. If the light conduit is the problem do I need to drain the pool below the light to fix it?
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
If you have a leak with the lines unplugged, and then no leak with the lines plugged, then that would indicate that it is the lines. If plugging the lines makes no difference, then the lines are probably fine.
You can dive and dye test any suspicious spots on the liner and you can dye test the light conduit. Dye testing the conduit can be tricky, but it is usually doable.
If the conduit is leaking, you can drain below the light and seal the conduit with silicone. Try to only use enough to seal the conduit. Don't pump a lot of silicone into the conduit as that can make it very difficult to replace the light if necessary. Allow the silicone 12 hours to dry before refilling.
Repair the light before sealing the conduit in case you have to replace the light.
If you have a main drain, plug it at the same time, or drain the system, or you could end up siphoning water from the other lines. There might be a hydrostat in the main drain pot, but that's unlikely on a vinyl pool.
If you have a leak with the lines unplugged, and then no leak with the lines plugged, then that would indicate that it is the lines. If plugging the lines makes no difference, then the lines are probably fine.
You can dive and dye test any suspicious spots on the liner and you can dye test the light conduit. Dye testing the conduit can be tricky, but it is usually doable.
If the conduit is leaking, you can drain below the light and seal the conduit with silicone. Try to only use enough to seal the conduit. Don't pump a lot of silicone into the conduit as that can make it very difficult to replace the light if necessary. Allow the silicone 12 hours to dry before refilling.
Repair the light before sealing the conduit in case you have to replace the light.
If you have a main drain, plug it at the same time, or drain the system, or you could end up siphoning water from the other lines. There might be a hydrostat in the main drain pot, but that's unlikely on a vinyl pool.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
I've got a few more questions. The light works still so I don't know what there would be to repair other than the leak. I have a main drain at the bottom of the pool, I don't think I would be able to hold my breath long enough to plug it.
Also, the pool liner is about 14 months old so I hope there are no leaks. That said if there are the are covered I spoke with the company that did the install, they said if the liner was leaking they would repair it.
edit-I think I'm going to try this if the conduit is leaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjtMnrR ... age#t=393s
JamesW said:
I've got a few more questions. The light works still so I don't know what there would be to repair other than the leak. I have a main drain at the bottom of the pool, I don't think I would be able to hold my breath long enough to plug it.
Also, the pool liner is about 14 months old so I hope there are no leaks. That said if there are the are covered I spoke with the company that did the install, they said if the liner was leaking they would repair it.
edit-I think I'm going to try this if the conduit is leaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjtMnrR ... age#t=393s
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Results of bucket test are 1/4" of evaporation and I'm losing 1 1/3" a day. Didn't find any leaks behind light, skimmer, returns. I couldn't hold my breath long enough to test main drain.
Results of bucket test are 1/4" of evaporation and I'm losing 1 1/3" a day. Didn't find any leaks behind light, skimmer, returns. I couldn't hold my breath long enough to test main drain.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Can you take a piece of thin rubber and position it with your pool pole over the MD to see if it'll seal off enough to lesson the loss. If it does you'll know it's the MD. You could drop a sand bag down on it to help it seal off. Leave a rope hooked to it so ti'll be easy to retrieve.
Can you take a piece of thin rubber and position it with your pool pole over the MD to see if it'll seal off enough to lesson the loss. If it does you'll know it's the MD. You could drop a sand bag down on it to help it seal off. Leave a rope hooked to it so ti'll be easy to retrieve.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Great idea! I'm going to try it.
Bama Rambler said:
Great idea! I'm going to try it.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
If I plug my returns and skimmer and do a bucket test do I need to plug the main drain as well to narrow the leak down to the liner.
If I plug my returns and skimmer and do a bucket test do I need to plug the main drain as well to narrow the leak down to the liner.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
You have to plug the main drain or you have to drain the pump and filter, or the water could siphon from one place to another.
You have to plug the main drain or you have to drain the pump and filter, or the water could siphon from one place to another.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Dang! I thought I would. :/ Would I be wrong to assume that I can plug my main drain with the same type of screw in fittings I put in my returns when I close my pool.JamesW said:
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
The main drain has a 1.5-inch or 2-inch threaded hole. You can use a threaded plug or you can use a rubber plug.
If you only want to do the skimmer and return lines, you don't have to plug the Main drain if you drain the pump and filter. Just turn off the system and open the air relief valve on the filter and that will drain the pump and filter enough.
The main drain has a 1.5-inch or 2-inch threaded hole. You can use a threaded plug or you can use a rubber plug.
If you only want to do the skimmer and return lines, you don't have to plug the Main drain if you drain the pump and filter. Just turn off the system and open the air relief valve on the filter and that will drain the pump and filter enough.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
My filter unfortunately doesn't have a relief valve. I'm going to try to plug the main drain.JamesW said:
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Wow! I think I found the link. A few years ago my backwash port had a VERY slow drip coming out of it. I used a clamp to clamp down the backwash hose to it tight. Well the leak I guess got MUCH WORSE over time. When I took the backwash hose off it was a very steady stream coming out. Normally this is the gasket for the multiport, right?
Wow! I think I found the link. A few years ago my backwash port had a VERY slow drip coming out of it. I used a clamp to clamp down the backwash hose to it tight. Well the leak I guess got MUCH WORSE over time. When I took the backwash hose off it was a very steady stream coming out. Normally this is the gasket for the multiport, right?
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
It sure is. You'll be replacing that soon. You can plug the port temporarily but I wouldn't leave it that way.
It sure is. You'll be replacing that soon. You can plug the port temporarily but I wouldn't leave it that way.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
I believe a saw two gaskets. Should I replace both.
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I believe a saw two gaskets. Should I replace both.
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Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
It sounds like the o-ring that goes around the body of the mutiport and the spider gasket. I would replace them both. It's cheap insurance.
It sounds like the o-ring that goes around the body of the mutiport and the spider gasket. I would replace them both. It's cheap insurance.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Last time I looked the spider gasket wasn't replaceable on my filter. :/guamguy said:
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Yeah, you're one of those that have to replace the whole internals. Either way, it's going to have to be done if it's leaking. The only other option is to replace the whole filter and/or valve.
Yeah, you're one of those that have to replace the whole internals. Either way, it's going to have to be done if it's leaking. The only other option is to replace the whole filter and/or valve.
Re: Pool light full of water 1/3 way up (1-2" H2O perday los
Looks like if I buy a diverter repair kit it comes with the gasket. Part# 39251509K. water-dribbling-from-backwash-port-t20399.html
Bama Rambler said:
Looks like if I buy a diverter repair kit it comes with the gasket. Part# 39251509K. water-dribbling-from-backwash-port-t20399.html