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    Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    I am awaiting the arrival of my TF100 test kit .. but had the pool store test my water today. Looks like they are getting better. Still chasing the stabelizer! Have already added 9 lbs and they are suggesting I add 2 more. Should I keep adding .. seems like I need to get the CYA to about 30.

    FC: 3.9
    TC: 4.3
    PH: 8
    Hardness: 250
    TA: 111
    CYA 15

    Should I continue to add more stabelizer?

    Thanks. Rich
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    I wouldn't add any more. You've already added what it will take to get close. When did you add it?
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    I have added 2 or 3 lbs / day for the last 3 days. Also have some sediment in my pool that needs to be vacuumed up. I vacummed when I opened my pool, but it was cloudy in the deep end and couldn't see. Now that it is clear, I need to vacuum. I understand that I should not backflush?

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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    Correct; if you backwash now you'll just dump out a bunch of your $$ CYA. If you know for certain you'll need to backwash after vacuuming, just wait a few more days.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    Probably a stupid question, but with those numbers, is it ok to swim. PH of 8 ok? Should I drive my FC up higher than 3.9 with the CYA at 15?
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    I'd say you are fine to swim. pH around 8 isn't dangerous, just not the best for long-term pool care.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    Might as well just lower the pH if you have acid on hand.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    If the CYA comes up over time with the stabelizer I added, won't that lower the PH? or will that take too long to get there.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    It will lower it, but probably not enough.
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    My first test using TF-100

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    Here are my #s using TF100 for the first time:

    FC 5
    CC .5
    TC 5.5
    PH 7.3
    T/A 120
    CH 250
    CYA 20
    Temp 73

    Even after ready the pool school, I am a little confused on where to go next. PH still a little low and CYA needs to come up? Pool has a chlorine smell. Using 3in trichlor tabs in-line auto feeder. ??? Please help.
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    Re: My first test using TF-100

    add CYA and keep an eye on that FC level. How does water look?
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    AS coloeb said, "How does your water look?". That visual assesment is important to help us get a complete picture.

    If you continue to use pucks to chlorinate, it will add the CYA quite slowly (that's okay as long as you keep an eye on it.....stop around 40ppm or so) and it will likely continue to lower your pH.

    Your pH is okay now but if it lowers much more you could use two strategies....

    1. Continue the use of the pucks up to 40ppm CYA and use 20 Mule Team Borax to raise your pH if it continues to lower.

    2. Stop using the pucks and switch to LQ. Your pH will start to rise slowly and you will need to add CYA seperately to get to 40ppm.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    Since you added appx. 9 lbs of CYA already, wait about a week after the last add to test CYA level.

    You added enough to get to 40 and, even tho you can't test that level yet, you should adjust your chlorine levels accordingly.

    If you smell chlorine, you are smelling CC's and need to either increase your FC level or shock or both.

    Assuming CYA of 40, you should maintain your FC between 3 and 6.

    I suggest you do an Overnight FC Loss test tonight. Here's the article from Pool School:
    pool-school/overnight_fc_test

    If it was my pool, smelling cc's, I would just go ahead shock now.

    Your pH is fine.
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    The water is crystal clear. I will shock again tonight to get rid off CC's
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    Re: Here are my chemical numbers .. please help

    I will shock again tonight to get rid off CC's
    Doesn't seem to me there is a need.

    You are finished shocking when....

    1. Your pool water is sparkling
    2. Your CC's are .5ppm or less
    3. You can hold your FC overnight without losing more than 1ppm.

    So you've accomplished 1 and 2. I would do an overnight FC loss test and see if you can satisfy #3 and then you are done.
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