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Thread: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

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    Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    Pool finished last Saturday.
    I have been reading TFP and already bought a TF-100 test kit. Before taking the first water sample to the pool company, I tested it myself:
    pH - 7.8
    TA - 10
    FC - 0.5
    TC - 0.5
    CH - 150
    CYA - 0
    Their test was pretty close to mine and I picked up my initial load of checmicals (company provides with build). They instructed me to add:
    32oz of stabilizer
    32oz dichlor
    3 dichlor stick in skimmers
    24oz algacide
    7lbs of Hardness Control over the next 4 days (3.5lbs per day)

    After a week, pool is clear, but I do notice dead algae on the bottom every day. The company tested the water:
    pH - 7.6
    TA - 47
    FC - 0
    TC - 0
    CH - 136
    CYA - 0
    They only recommended 32oz of dichlor and 5oz of algacide and continue with 3 sticks per week. Was told that the CYA would naturally rise. They said they want to keep track of all the chemicals I use in case there is a future problem with staining, etc., they can see what has been done.

    My question is, they don't seem to be addressing the lack of chlorine, or CYA. My novice reading tells me algae may be using up the FC. Putting test results into the Pool Calculator shows that I need quite a bit of work with bleach, baking soda, stabilizer, etc.

    With a new pool, where do you start?
    new in 2009 - 18' x 36' IG vinyl liner, 23,300 gallons
    24" sand filter w/ 1.5hp pump
    Polaris 280 cleaner w/ booster pump

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    Re: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    Start by reading some articles in Pool School. ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry, Overnight FC Loss Test, and Defeating Algae would be three good ones.

    Then, trust your own test results. Invariably, you will be more accurate than the pool store. Now, that still goes but I think you should recheck the TA test.....a result of 10 is incredibly low and I suspect testing error of some kind.

    Next, start with your pH....yours is okay but at the high end of okay. I'd leave it alone for now but watch it carefully and make sure it stays in the 7's.

    Next, get some chlorine in your pool ASAP......bring it up to shock value and hold it there until the dead algae has disappeared and you lose less than 1ppm overnight (overnight FC Loss test) You are correct....algae is consuming your FC and it must be constantly replenished and held at shock level.

    CYA is next....get enough in there to get to around 40ppm ASAP. The sun is killing off the remaining FC and the CYA will reduce that loss.

    I would disregard the Trichlor and the sticks and the algaecide. They will do nothing for you that chlorine and CYA won't accomplish cheaper and virtually as effective.

    Pretty soon, you'll have to pick which advice to follow.....the PB's may work just fine but it will conflict with what you hear here and cause you (and everyone else) a lot of confusion.
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    Re: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    Thanks for the assist. I just wanted to make sure I was heading in the right direction.
    I'll do my own testing in the morning and then start doing this myself.
    new in 2009 - 18' x 36' IG vinyl liner, 23,300 gallons
    24" sand filter w/ 1.5hp pump
    Polaris 280 cleaner w/ booster pump

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    Re: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    I would think the only possibility of staining would come from the N2 so as long as you keep the cartridge out it shouldn't be an issue.

    Follow Dave's advice, we'll get ya straight!
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    Re: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by lances4803
    They only recommended 32oz of dichlor and 5oz of algacide and continue with 3 sticks per week. Was told that the CYA would naturally rise.
    The dichlor contributes almost as much CYA as it does chlorine, not exactly a "natural" rise, it suggests they don't really understand what's going on with the dichlor.
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    Re: Week Old Pool - How to Start Off Right?

    I tested again this morning (after adding the 32oz of dichlor last night).
    pH - 7.6
    TA - 80 (the company got this one way wrong.)
    FC - 6
    TC - 6.5

    I picked up 2 gallons of stabilizer today, and will start with BBB this weekend!
    I think this confirmed that the pool company doesn't know what they are doing.
    I wonder if they will take back the unopened N2 cartridge?
    Thanks everyone!!
    new in 2009 - 18' x 36' IG vinyl liner, 23,300 gallons
    24" sand filter w/ 1.5hp pump
    Polaris 280 cleaner w/ booster pump

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