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    New installation headache. Please help

    My wife and I really wanted a new pool for this summer. I bought a 24 foot saltwater pool from the pool factory and began installing it on Friday. It was replacing a pool I had so I expected minimal site setup. I finally got it all together today and began filling and the walls began to buckle. I called the company and they said I have to build a larger cove. I didnít build any cove at all. I used a foam cove but apparently that isnít enough. So what do I do? Do I have to pull off the whole liner and build a cove? I am only having issues in 2 locations, directly opposite sides of the pool. Can I pull the liner off just those sides and put sand directly over the foam cove thatís there? I also have a floor pad there so not sure if I have to get the sand under there? I hope Iím making sense. Please help. Thank you

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    I wouldn't think that "not enough" cove or even "no cove" at all is causing your issue. I think the wall is out of the bottom track. I'm assuming the wall is pushing "out"?
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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    I have the foam cove and it was plenty for my 33' round. I have to say I agree with Woody-wall out of track or track is out of the upright metal plate.

    Can you see the bottom track all the way around the pool? That is where to look first.
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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    The wall is in the bottom track. I can see it. It did pull the wall down and forward enough to pull it out of the one upright.

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    It’s pretty cold here too. Could that cause stretch issues?

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    I was just thinking about the liner when I saw you say it was still in the track. Here is a link about the different kinds of liners just in case you are not sure:

    Above Ground Pool Liner Types: The Good and the Bad

    Oh I would be taking some water out so you can get the wall back upright so you don't mess up your walls.
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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    I am draining now. The wall came back upright. I have a j bead liner. Could there not be enough room? Too cold to stretch? If that’s the case how do I fix it without having to take it all down?

    i was thinking add 2-3 inches of sand over the foam cove then covering that with the remaining wall foam I had and duct taping it to the wall and floor. Would that effectively give me additional space?

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    Okay think back to when the water was in and filling the bottom. Did the seam where the wall meets to bottom go all the way down to the bottom? Did you do something to get it there and keep it there?
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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    Yes. It seems to have went to the cove just fine. I was just brainstorming and am wondering if I put the top stabilizers on correctly. I probably should have put the joints under the top caps. Then it wouldn’t have been able to kink or flex anywhere and then it wouldn’t have come out from the top plate.

    So so from what I’m saying you guys believe the cove is ok? What temp minimum would you say is required to fill the pool?

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    When you say "joints under the top caps" what do you mean?

    I really think the cove is fine. That is all I have on mine............sand level on the bottom with foam cove sitting on top of it. No sand up or over the cove. Mine is fine.

    I have always heard you need the sun shining on the liner to make it supple. Not sure of what temp is min. though. Maybe do a search to see what the average says as we both know some with say x and another will say z. For now go get some stakes and rope to help hold the walls up. I hope you are not getting any of this mess we are down here in FL. BIG rain and wind and lighting kl

    I would also put a tarp or such on the bottom to protect it.

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    The stabilizer rails are in sections the same length as the bottom track sections. I probably should have put the ends of each stabilizer under the top caps. Instead I put the apex of the arch in the top cap. Those breaks between the stabilizer bars is where I thunk the problem started. I am in N.C. it’s cold here! And raining. The pool was filling good until the clouds came in. I am draining and the walls have come back into shape. I’ll adjust stabilizer bars and wait for a sunny day.

    Any idea deal how to keep the water in the bottom from getting too nasty?

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    Re: New installation headache. Please help

    Got ya! Yeah the ends should be under the caps.

    Wet vac or subm pump to get it up and out as needed. I guess you could put a table spoon of bleach in it and mix it in good but don't really like that idea as I worry about it bleach your brand new liner

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