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    Jandy?

    Hi everyone, I'm a newbie here so I hope this is a good question.

    I'm about to install a 14'x22' on ground pool with a depth of 4.5'.

    The person I'm dealing with is pushing a Jandy system for our pool. I never heard of them, and can't find many reviews about them.
    He basically said to run a jxi200 heater with a Jandy pump with one speed. (don't know what model)

    My questions are: How good is Jandy and will it last? Should I go with Hayward?

    Jandy is offering 5 year warranty. 3 years 100% covered and last 2 years $200 deductible. Hayward is 1 year. He says Jandy only offers this when you purchase your entire pool system from them. So Jandy everything including salt. My concern is that Jandy used copper heat exchange, and Hayward has
    cupro nickel heat exchanger.
    Any insight would be great.
    Thanks a lot
    Bob
    I live in Ontario, Canada

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    Re: Jandy?

    Bob,

    Welcome to TFP... a great place to find the answers to all your new pool equipment questions...

    The three big players for pool equipment are.. Pentair, Hayward and Jandy.. The all have pluses and minus but they are all about the same quality wise..

    Jandy makes several different salt systems... I do not recommend any of them that include the words "Soft" or Fusion"... Keep in mind that any salt cells need to be rated at least 2 x the volume of your pool..

    It should be illegal to install pools with single speed pumps.. Because you will need to run your pump longer so that your salt system can generate the chlorine you need, you really should go with a 2-speed pump, or a variable speed, pump..

    I suggest you get the exact part numbers of what the pool builder is recommending and show it to us for our "Seal of Approval"...

    Thanks for posting,

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    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: Jandy?

    Thanks for the heads up on the pump. Were going in to finalize our purchase on Wednesday, I'll have to talk to him about another pump. Do you think the Jandy is a reliable system?
    Or should I go with my gut instinct and get Hayward?
    Thanks
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    Bob,

    I see about equal positive and negative comments here about all three companies...(Pentair, Jandy, Hayward)

    It is kind of like the old "My Ford is better than your Chevy" feud... They are pretty much the same.

    But.. if you want Hayward, tell your pool builder you want Hayward... In almost every case, I have ever seen, new pool equipment all has the same basic warranty. I suspect the Hayward Warranty is at least 3 years when buying a new system... I suggest you contact them to make sure your pool builder is telling you the whole story.

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
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    Re: Jandy?

    Flopro pump 1 hp 2 speed
    Jandycartridge filter
    Truclear salt system
    Jxiheater200
    This is what their giving me.
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    bob,

    Looks good to me... I see no red flags...

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: Jandy?

    Thanks a lot for your help, and fast replies.
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    Re: Jandy?

    Jandy is great that is what I have. Like has been said, they are tier 1 so no issues. Are you getting any automation? Remote control is nice especially if you have any water features. Also I think I would ask about upgrading to the JXi400 as it will heat the pool much faster. I don't think it costs much more but may require your gas line to be heavied up. Jandy also has cupro-nickel model heaters.

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    Re: Jandy?

    The pool guy told me that the bigger unit would burn more fuel and really wouldn't heat the pool much faster. Just found out today he's giving us the Zodiac EI salt chlorinator.
    Any thoughts on that?
    We did not take any automation upgrades. Just a timer.
    Also upped the pool size to 15x25

    Thanks.
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    Re: Jandy?

    Quote Originally Posted by bob74 View Post
    The pool guy told me that the bigger unit would burn more fuel and really wouldn't heat the pool much faster. Just found out today he's giving us the Zodiac EI salt chlorinator.
    Any thoughts on that?
    We did not take any automation upgrades. Just a timer.
    Also upped the pool size to 15x25

    Thanks.
    Both heater models are 85% efficient. Each puts out a specific BTU that is added to the water. A larger heater will heat faster. With your volume you will be happy with the smaller size. I don't think the overall running costs will vary that much. Go with the builder's advice on this one!

    I don't like that salt cell at all. It puts out very little chlorine. I would go with something else. The FusionSoft is what I have but maybe even go with something more. If you ever want automation you need to stick with all the same brand. Factor that into your decision.

    Chlorine Output:
    APURE35 - 0.62 oz. (17.5 g) per hour (.93 lb /day or 420 gm /day)

    Compared to the FusionSoft
    1.25 lb / day (567 gm / day)
    29k Gallon Free Form Gunite Pool, 3 floor returns, 2 wall returns, 1 vacuum pressure port, 2 skimmers, Main drain, Jandy 2.7HP VSP, Jandy JXI400N Gas Heater, Jandy CV340 Cartridge Filter, FusionSoft 1400 SWG, 2 Watercolors LED, iAqualink with PDA, Sheer Waterfall, Rock Waterfall, 9' Deep End w/Diving Board, SunDeck, Polaris 9650iQ, TF-100 - Pool Build - 2017 - Google Photos

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    Re: Jandy?

    Thanks for your help. Just emailed my pool guy asking how much more $$ for a better salt system.
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    Re: Jandy?

    Bob,

    I have 5 years on the same Flopro pump and CX 200 Jandy cartridge with no leaks, no runs, no errors. Cleaning the filter is a 20 min job with a cheap filter comb on the end of a hose. I also have 4 yrs on the jxi heater... minor problems with connections in the fairly complicated interlock system but once I used some Corrosion Block on them I've not had any problems. My research is this is a common problem especially in the humidity of Florida. Most of the pumps use the same manufacturer of electric motor. A trick I use to make it last is to remove the 4 long bolts that hold the case together, one at at time. Add some anti-seize to the threaded end and re-install. This way when you need to replace the bearing you will be able to do so without twisting the bolt of because of dissimilar metal corrosion. With this little trick you can usually get 15 years+ and only pay for bearings and seals every 5-10 years.

    I agree with other's comments that these all seem about the same in terms of quality, reliability. If you're going to add automation try to stay with the same system. It will be easier to hook up and get the most features to work. One exception is on the valve actuators and I believe either Pentair or Hayward that make a superior model that is much easier to adjust accurately. Metallurgists never have real clear answers to anything but they seem to be in general agreement that cupro-nickel is better metallurgy for pools and especially salt water systems.

    That's my $.02, I hope it helps.

    Chris
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    2013 In-ground plaster/pebble, screen enclosed, 12000 gal w/ Jandy 2 speed 1 HP pump, Jandy CS 200 cartridge filter, 800 gal spa w/ 1.5 HP booster pump, Solar heater, 2 LED lights in pool 1 light in spa, TF-100 test kit, The PoolCleaner Next Generation, Jandy RS-12 Automation system with iAqualink 2.0 control, Separate Hayward/Goldline Solar control

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    Quote Originally Posted by setsailsoon View Post
    Bob,

    I have 5 years on the same Flopro pump and CX 200 Jandy cartridge with no leaks, no runs, no errors. Cleaning the filter is a 20 min job with a cheap filter comb on the end of a hose. I also have 4 yrs on the jxi heater... minor problems with connections in the fairly complicated interlock system but once I used some Corrosion Block on them I've not had any problems. My research is this is a common problem especially in the humidity of Florida. Most of the pumps use the same manufacturer of electric motor. A trick I use to make it last is to remove the 4 long bolts that hold the case together, one at at time. Add some anti-seize to the threaded end and re-install. This way when you need to replace the bearing you will be able to do so without twisting the bolt of because of dissimilar metal corrosion. With this little trick you can usually get 15 years+ and only pay for bearings and seals every 5-10 years.

    I agree with other's comments that these all seem about the same in terms of quality, reliability. If you're going to add automation try to stay with the same system. It will be easier to hook up and get the most features to work. One exception is on the valve actuators and I believe either Pentair or Hayward that make a superior model that is much easier to adjust accurately. Metallurgists never have real clear answers to anything but they seem to be in general agreement that cupro-nickel is better metallurgy for pools and especially salt water systems.

    That's my $.02, I hope it helps.

    Chris

    Thank you sir.
    I will take all the advise and information I can. This is a big purchase $25,200 (Canadian $) so like $19,500 USD.
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    Re: Jandy?

    Besides our fire bowl magic lights our entire setup is Jandy. It’s also fully automated and it’s been great.
    21k IG pebble, All Jandy Pro: VS Pump, FlowPro 1.0, AP 1400 SWCG, JXI400 Heater, iAqualink 2.0, CV580 Filter, 6 led color nicheless lights, Pentair FireFX Magicbowls. TF-100 kit, Taylor K-1766 Salt test kit
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