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    "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    I'm new to TFP, so thanks for reading a newbie's post.


    I have an in-ground pool with an attached spa/hot tub in my backyard. The spa has 6 valves/vents. The pool/spa is about 3 years old. When we were in the spa last night I noticed that 5 of the 6 vents/valves had strong air pressure blowing during spa operation. The 6th had some pressure but it was MUCH lower than the rest. Then today during normal pool operation, the 5 valves have good water pressure coming out (normal), BUT the "bad" vent actually has suction now instead of water pressure coming out. I put my finger in the non-working valve and can't feel anything.


    I have some electrical fish tape that I was going to insert and see if it hits anything, but wanted to check with this group before I try anything.


    I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion or way to troubleshoot what might be going on??

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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    ews,

    Welcome to TFP.. a great place to find the answers to all your Funny-Acting Spa questions..., even if you are ashamed of the city you live in...

    I guess my first question is... Did the spa work fine for the first 3 years, and just now went bad, or did you just notice it?

    Does your spa have an air blower?

    I don't have an in-ground Spa, so not much of an expert, but if you can answer these questions, I'll bet you might get some better responses..

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    Hi @Jimrahbe,

    Thanks, yes the spa vent/port worked fine for 3 years, I just noticed the strange behavior of the 1 vent last night, and this morning when I checked it again. It's just odd because all other vents (5 of them) work as expected.

    No, the spa doesn't have a separate blower, it just uses the same pump at higher rpms (the way the pool builder set it up initially). There is an open-ended pipe near the equipment where air is drawn when in spa mode.

    Happy to provide further information or pictures if needed.

    Thanks,
    ews2001

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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    ews,

    My understanding is that water and air get mixed in a valve back inside the Spa wall... it can get plugged up and the flow stops.. I believe that the "guts' to the valve/jet can be removed and cleaned..

    That said, it is something that I have no direct experience with... Let me see if I can get one of our Spa Experts to chime in on this one...

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    I'm far from an expert, but I did help a neighbor fix his spa jet with identical symptoms. Turned out of be a little piece of debris clogging the orifice inside the jet. My understanding is that most spa jets can be removed for repair or replacement, but they often require a special tool. We were able to use a pair of snap ring pliers to get the jet out, but the actual tool made for the job would have been much easier.

    This is what I found online to help us diagnose the problem. It has a nice diagram explaining how spa jets work.
    https://spapartsplus.com/update/docs/spu0114_Jets.html
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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    Thank you @MinerJason!

    While in pool mode today, I removed the jet valve (which provides the directional flow), then grabbed my large/long screwdriver and with minor force twisted/scraped the screwdriver along the edges of the inner pipe. After about 10 seconds, 3 larger pieces of calcium came out of the jet and now the water is flowing as it was in the past. Here's a screenshot showing the culprits. Thanks to everyone who helped me fix the "funny-acting" valve!

    IMG_2253.jpg

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    Re: "Funny-Acting" Spa Valve

    There are a few variations, but a 13/16 socket on a two foot long extension will remove the jet. You have to remove the wall eyeball first.

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