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    Shotcrete Application

    I'm wondering how hot is too hot to apply shotcrete? We are booked for Wednesday, but temps this week are quite high, with Wednesday expected to be by far the hottest. I trust my pool builder but would like to know at which point do I question the application.

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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    Can you tell us the temps you are looking at for that day? Remember we are in the States LOL

    I have a call into someone that will know.

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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    Hi Kim, according to google the conversion is 96.8*F. Today seems cooler than yesterday so not sure that this heat wave will persist as predicted. I'd say at the least though we'd be looking at 90*F. Thanks for looking into it for me


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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    I would suggest 32 to 35 C as an upper limit in general.
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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    Hot weather speeds the initial set, which can be problematic, but it can also be managed. Plenty of shotcrete pools get installed around here in the summer, where the daily highs are typically at least 35C and often over 43C. Water reducing retarder admix is generally used in the summer here, and whoever's responsible for keeping it moist during the initial cure has to be a lot more diligent about spraying it down in hotter weather. If it's being mixed on site or the batch plant is really close by, I wouldn't worry too much. If the batch plant isn't really close by, it could be problematic, even if they use a retarder admix.
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    Shotcrete Application

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesW View Post
    I would suggest 32 to 35 C as an upper limit in general.
    Thanks James. Looks like we'll be at the upper limit regardless.
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    Shotcrete Application

    [QUOTE=MinerJason;1377770]Hot weather speeds the initial set [QUOTE]

    Thanks Jason, this is what I'd assumed. The day that the pour is booked is predicted to be 36*. The day after is 33* and the day after that 31*. It's batch concrete and the site is local. That would be me who will be chief waterer, so will water as frequently as I can. Luckily it's a tiny pool so won't take long. I'm hoping my pb takes whatever precautions are necessary to protect my shell.
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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    You can use a sprinkler to help water it. You can even set them up with timers.

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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    That's a great idea Kim. I might pick up what I need to do that today so I'm set. Will be at work the two days after so was planning to water morning, after work and before bed but would be good to be able to set it to water in the middle of the day when it's the hottest. Just chatting to the tradies on site here and they said there's no way it will be postponed, so best I prepare for doing what I can to help.

    Hubby is off to the US tomorrow as his elderly uncle passed away. Is there anything I can get him to bring back with him that we might need for the pool? Already ordered my speedstir.


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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    Since you can get a good test kit from here:

    Clear Choice Labs Simple. Accurate. Fast.

    You should be good. Now if you want to order a TF-100 and think he will be there long enough to take delivery then you can do that. The link is in my siggy below.

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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    Thanks, think I will stick to the clear choice labs kit since it's local and seem to have good support.


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    Re: Shotcrete Application

    I think you will be very happy with them!
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