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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Funny how things work out. Very glad you were able to find a crew that do it for you.

    Now go measure everything to make sure it is correct lol like I need to tell you this
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    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Funny how things work out. Very glad you were able to find a crew that do it for you.

    Now go measure everything to make sure it is correct lol like I need to tell you this
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdavis466 View Post
    It's not so much a weight thing because the entire structure is probably about 10lbs Sq ft shared on four posts but a shear issue due to the posts and columns having 10-12' of leverage on the footing. It wouldn't take much force to transfer down to the pool and crack the shell.... That would be a very bad day for everyone.

    Here you can see that a 100 pound load at the top of the post translates into nearly 1,000 pounds on the post anchor... not to mention all of the other factors at play.

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    But it’s not just the combined total load that matters. A bending moment like that puts the concrete in both tensile and compressive stress. Concrete is great in compression (that’s the often quoted “3000psi concrete” number) but lousy in tension. So you need a much larger “chunk” of concrete to absorb the additional bending forces.

    Buts that’s as far as I got in MechE before realizing I liked chemistry a whole lot better ... and calculating load points and bending moments on the purely theoretical “mass-less” truss drove me bonkers
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    That's why the columns have to be 32" square minimum and completely solid shotcrete. I can't imagine what this would look like if it had to support some serious weight.

    Thanks for finally chiming in... Kim and I were getting lonely in here
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    Having switched to the new theme, I’m currently missing a lot of new posts that I would normally add my unwanted & nonsensical commentary to....perhaps Lee designed it that way

    Details aside, this pool build is going to epic! Way to go out on a high note
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    More progress today. Wanger and I remove a window, replaced a window and turned a slider into a window all to make way for the patio cover. Of course new windows were 2" larger than the old ones

    Plumbing is just about wrapped up, the lumber delivery and visit from the inspector will be tomorrow.

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    My uncle pulled through on those post anchors and here they are. I'll weld them into place tomorrow.

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    You lay pipe well....

    I’ll just leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoyfulNoise View Post
    You lay pipe well....

    I’ll just leave it at that.
    Just wait until you see the equipment pad....

    I'm hoping I get to be the first to try this seat in the spa out - tri jets for the back dual calve jets and a floor foot jet

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    That is some serious plumbing!! Why two Hartford loops...two air lines?
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

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    That is some serious plumbing!! Why two Hartford loops...two air lines?
    I always split and loop the air line and do the same for the return jets. Pipe is cheap, unsatisfied customers.... Not so much
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    I always split and loop the air line and do the same for the return jets. Pipe is cheap, unsatisfied customers.... Not so much
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    So who is this Wanger? He looks like hard worker!

    Of course the windows were a different size You have been doing this long enough to know that is how it should be.............nothing is the same or easy!

    That spa is going to be neat!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    So who is this Wanger? He looks like hard worker!
    I teach at the fire academy and he was one of the students to go through it a little while back. He heard I did construction and asked if I needed help....I had a remodel going that needed almost 2,000 SQ ft of concrete broken out with no access for a tractor so jackhammer only and haul it off in wheelbarrows.

    He never complained and asked when I needed him next. He's been around ever since.

    His days are numbered though because it looks like he's going to get hired by the fire department.

    I just learned not too long ago that his last name is actually Wenger...too late, it's Wanger now

    Here he is on that job:



    That hill was way stepper than it looked and about 300 feet from where the pool was

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    He sounds like the kind of people that gives you hope for the future! Hard working and coming back for more! I bet you are proud of him!

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    Hahahahaha...you should have just called him “chuck” ....
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    It's always been Wanger. I like the looks I get from people when I introduce him!

    This is Wanger.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdavis466 View Post
    It's always been Wanger. I like the looks I get from people when I introduce him!

    This is Wanger.....
    It would be worse if you referred to him as “this is my wanger.”

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    Can I borrow your Wanger, I have a demolition job for him...
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    I don't like letting my Wanger hang out with just anyone
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    Oh sure, shows us your Wanger and then hide him away....you’re such a tease...
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