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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

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    Demo took longer than expected. The patio slab was 6" thick and up to 8" thick in some areas. Whoever poured it was also nice enough to strategically place some #6 rebar

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    Wow! Looks like my 16'x50' patio we tore out when building my pool last spring! The prior homeowner had done a cheap "Samoan" concrete job, and the slab had poor drainage and looked like it had been finished by a 3 yr. old with a broom. My PB thought they could tear it out in a about two hours. Two days later, we figured out it had enough rebar for a bridge! It ranged from 4 to 6 to 8 inches thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csrpenfab View Post
    Wow! Looks like my 16'x50' patio we tore out when building my pool last spring! The prior homeowner had done a cheap "Samoan" concrete job, and the slab had poor drainage and looked like it had been finished by a 3 yr. old with a broom. My PB thought they could tear it out in a about two hours. Two days later, we figured out it had enough rebar for a bridge! It ranged from 4 to 6 to 8 inches thick.
    Good old Samoan concrete!
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Here's the clean slate. Pretty sad what is cost to demo all the stuff that the previous homeowner probably paid a small fortune for...

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    We started on the layout and set the forms. Luckily there is a decent slope at the far rear of the lot that most of the excavated dirt will fill in as well as bring up the grade around the pool. I might even get lucky enough to not have to haul any dirt off...

    I placed the lumber order for the patio framing yesterday and was delightfully surprised to find that the price of wood has skyrocketed due to the reconstruction after the hurricanes

    This will probably be it for the week because of the holiday but I'm hoping to get the patio footing inspected and poured as well as plumbing and rebar started.

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    B, when you get such a *delightful* surprise as the price of lumber do you have any way to change the build price?

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    B, when you get such a *delightful* surprise as the price of lumber do you have any way to change the build price?

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    I suppose I could but I don't. Whatever I quote is what it is unless the customer adds or changes something.

    Usually the budgets are so tight anyway that there isn't any room for things like that.
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Yet another reason for this to be your last pool build You are a good person B!

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    Finished up. Plumbing starts Monday.

    I'm going to add 3 bubblers on the reef step for the kids. I'm using a VS pump for the water features so I might as well add a little more flow to take advantage of it. They have no idea!

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    Brian,

    What is the square hole in the bottom of the pool for???

    Thanks,

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    Bubblers for the kids!!! OH man that is going to be so much fun to turn on while they are watching!!! Is there ANY chance they know about TFP? I sure hope not! LOL

    Jim I even went back to the first page to see if I could figure out what it was for. Not sure even after looking at the design.

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimrahbe View Post
    Brian,

    What is the square hole in the bottom of the pool for???

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    They are footings for the columns that will support the pergola structure. They are 6'-6" square X 15" deep with tons of rebar. The columns themselves will be 32" square and 36" higher than the bond beam.

    Here's the detail:

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    The columns also require custom post bases because none of the offerings available meet lateral resistance loads required. I was planning on making them myself but my uncle volunteered to make them... He's super skilled with metal working and these will be nothing for him to knock out.

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    He's very precise so I made sure that he had the exact measurements I needed. I did this in SketchUp - it's an awesome program that's free and has tons of support available to learn.

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Brian,

    Wow, I would not have thought that the pergola would have been that heavy??

    But that is why you build pools and I sit here looking at pictures...

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Bubblers for the kids!!! OH man that is going to be so much fun to turn on while they are watching!!! Is there ANY chance they know about TFP? I sure hope not! LOL

    Jim I even went back to the first page to see if I could figure out what it was for. Not sure even after looking at the design.

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    No, I doubt they know about this site but I better watch what I say! They are awesome people and have been a pleasure thus far.
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimrahbe View Post
    Brian,

    Wow, I would not have thought that the pergola would have been that heavy??

    But that is why you build pools and I sit here looking at pictures...

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    It's not so much a weight thing because the entire structure is probably about 10lbs Sq ft shared on four posts but a shear issue due to the posts and columns having 10-12' of leverage on the footing. It wouldn't take much force to transfer down to the pool and crack the shell.... That would be a very bad day for everyone.

    Here you can see that a 100 pound load at the top of the post translates into nearly 1,000 pounds on the post anchor... not to mention all of the other factors at play.

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    The amount of details is mind blowing! That is "just" for the posts! Well done!

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    Brian,

    Very nice build. Looking forward to following the entire process. Engineering looks great.
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Had to jump on things hard today to make up for the long weekend. Rough plumbing going in and me and Wanger (pictured below) dug all the footings for the patio, pergola, planters and fireplace.

    Rebar going in tomorrow so they'll have to dance with the plumbers.

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    These monsters are for the patio columns:

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    Corner footers for the pergola and strip footing for the fireplace:

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by a500drvr View Post
    Brian,

    Very nice build. Looking forward to following the entire process. Engineering looks great.
    Welcome aboard!
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

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    "MUST get every inch of yard dug up!" LOL

    That is what I thought when I saw this pic and all of the others!

    Brian were you saying "This is the last time I will be doing this" with each shovel full of dirt?

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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
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    "MUST get every inch of yard dug up!" LOL

    That is what I thought when I saw this pic and all of the others!

    Brian were you saying "This is the last time I will be doing this" with each shovel full of dirt?

    Kim
    Nah, I don't mind the work, it's all the other stuff that wears on you. I've really enjoyed this project so far and I can't wait to start putting it together... I've got some more demo coming though
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    Re: Riverside, CA - Backyard Overhaul

    Plumbing finishing up and rebar going in.

    I had to go with a different rebar contractor because by usual guy let me down... I've been impressed with these guys so far and they've been very receptive to my requests.

    Rebar should be done today and plumbing done tomorrow. Hoping for shotcrete sometime next week.

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