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    Hello everyone! This is our first post since we are brand new to the TFP community. Have already found this site super helpful and plan to use the methods posted on here to keep our water chemistry optimized.

    Last week our PB started excavation and now we have a pool hole in our backyard! So fun to see it coming along. We will be selecting tiles/coping/pebbleTec Sheen color next week. Will be changing from the proposed Ozone system to a SWG after reading a lot of threads on this site. Will update signature with the SWG equipment once we make the change official with our PB.

    I have spent countless hours on here comparing pebble tech sheen colors - think we are going to go with the Blue Surf (I often call it Blue Smurf due to the threads, lol...I have to catch myself now). My husband likes the Prism Blue but I think it might be a little too dark. Was thinking of adding Luminous to the Blue Surf though. Too many decisions.
    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Talk about custom!!! LOVE IT!!!

    LOL on the blue smurf! One of the builds that used the blue surf color got a smurf doll and took a pic with him by the pool and it was a purrfect match!

    Are the kids beyond excited? Have they been able to be there for work most days? When will you get steel?

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    I'm so sad that it looks like photo sharing has been terminated by photo bucket so a lot of the threads I have been to look at photos won't show up for me. This must have recently happened too, wish I had gotten to see everyone's photos before the site stopped hosting them for free.

    The kids are super excited. I think they are most excited about the slide and hiding in the grotto behind the water fall. Can't wait till it is done.

    We got some steel in today. Tomorrow our street is getting slurry sealed so I don't think the PB will be able to work tomorrow.

    Here are some pic of what they did today.

    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Holli, go out and measure everything.............is it long, wide, deep, etc enough? NOW is the time to change/fix/tweak as needed.

    Let me know what threads you tried to see the pics and they were missing. Our IT guy has mad powers and can restore some pics so.........

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    We switched to a SWCG and the PB said we would be getting a Jandy TruClear Saltwater Chlorinator. I looked online and can only find 2 models available - one for new builds and one for retrofitting. We told PB we wanted at least a 40K generator since our pool is a little over 15K gallons. Will this be a good SWCG for our pool?

    We upgraded to the blue surf pebble sheen color and we are still awaiting prices on adding Luminous and Shimmering Sea. We picked out our quartz stone and waterline tile too.

    We did end up having to spend a lot more $ to move our air conditioner unit to the side of our house because the concrete was cut way too close to our planter area that had bushes that covered the unit. Either we had to remove the bushes covering the unit so we could add more quartz stone to make a wider walkway (which would leave our unit not hidden by foliage) or move the unit to the side of the house and fill in and make the planter smaller with quartz that matches the coping around the pool. This was a pricey miscalculation/measuring because it was not a problem on the drawings. PB says we had "options" but if we are spending this much money on a pool/backyard we don't want to now have to see our air conditioner unit in the middle of it. I really did love the shrub planter that covered our unit. A bit sad to have to lose that green area...it looked nice in our backyard.

    We currently have craziness in the front of our house as they had to move our gas to the other side of the house so there is a band cut out in our driveway and through the front yard.

    Here are the current pics of our pool progress:
    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    I LOVE your design, Holli!!

    They cut through your driveway!?! Oh wow! My hubby would not have been happy about THAT! I hope you get lots of work done this week!
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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Will this be a good SWCG for our pool?
    The Jandy Truclear will create 0.92 pounds of chlorine per day. So if your pool is 15000 gallons, you can add 7.5 ppm FC per day in your pool in 24 hours.

    I would call that undersized. It will require you to run your pump and SWCG at a 100% setting for 12-14 hours per day in the summer.

    A true 40K gallon SWCG should produce 1.4 pounds of chlorine per day.

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    That's what I was thinking. Wonder how much they are going to charge us additionally to move up to a 40K SWCG. We told them this at our meeting...we wanted a 40K minimum and then I asked the name of what SWCG would be installed. After some research I saw there are only two models and had a feeling it wouldn't be enough. Thank you so much Marty for the information. Will talk with PB tomorrow.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    So my husband sent a text to our PB regarding our concern that the Jandy Truclear SWCG is undersized from the 40K gallon SWCG we had wanted. He asked what it would cost/what our options would be for a true 40K gallon capacity. I'm not sure how we can get a different system or what it will cost us because this was the response:

    "Any salt system has to run longer in the summer time than ozone. I am emailing you a really good video on our ozone system from Del Ozone. We have only installed 5 salt systems out of 210 pools built this year, all of which have Del Ozone. Our internal reviews are great. We have 46 franchises nationwide doing the same thing. I'm not trying to change your mind again, but just want to inform you. A larger salt system would always help, but will still need to run longer and stronger to generate salt. Thanks".

    We did not get any options/prices we can upgrade to. Can someone recommend a SWCG system that we can ask for that will go with all of our equipment and the Jandy Z4 I Aqualink? A little frustrating trying to turn down ozone and go this route. We still haven't gotten prices for the luminous and shimming sea either - it's been a week now since we asked. Trying to be patient.
    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    The Aquapure 1400 is a true 40K cell.

    The ozone thing is all magic and no rabbit (stole that from a moderator!!)

    If the PB really said that " A larger salt system would always help, but will still need to run longer and stronger to generate salt. " -- he has no clue what he is talking about.
    A SWCG generates chlorine not salt. And no, a bigger unit will be able to run much less than the Truclear as it is undersized. The ozone thing does nothing to sanitize the water.

    Take care.
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    Thanks for the recommendation! I think I'm catching on because I told my husband his statement makes no sense from everything I have been reading on here. Thanks for confirming...I think they must get some kickbacks for referring ozone because changing our minds has been frowned upon. Will ask for price difference getting the Aquapure 1400. Thanks again for your help.
    Under Construction (Temecula, CA) - IG 37' x 15' freeform with 6'6" x 9'6" spa. Depth: 3.5' to 7'. Approx 15,300 Gallons. PebbleTec Sheen Blue Surf, (2) x 20W Nichless Color LED. Spa: 1 x 9W Nichless Color LED. Jandy EPUMP 2 HP, Filter 460 SQ FT CV, Jandy JXI 4000,000 BTU, Jandy AquaPure 1400 SWCG, Jandy Stealth 2 HP pump for the rockwork waterfall/grotto/slide area, Jandy Z4 I Aqualink, Zodiac MX6 cleaner.

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    I think they must get some kickbacks for referring ozone
    You hit the nail on the head. Many of these 'alternative' systems are sold to the PB's for very low cost as the manufacturer makes their money back by you having to replace the consumable items in the unit.

    The Jandy Aquapure is not very highly rated - see this - Compare and Review Saltwater Chlorine Generator Prices and Features
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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    We are in Temecula and Gardner Pools recently finished our PebbleTec Black Pearl. We decided to discontinue use of the SWG and went with Pentair Intellichem instead. Very happy so far.
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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Howdy, Neighbors!

    Been trying to follow this build but there isn't an update for the past couple of months. @HolliG....are we done yet? We would love to see more pictures, please!

    Quote Originally Posted by rmklaw View Post
    We are in Temecula and Gardner Pools recently finished our PebbleTec Black Pearl. We decided to discontinue use of the SWG and went with Pentair Intellichem instead. Very happy so far.
    Glad it worked for you. It's all about personal preference and what works best for you.
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    I will take some more pictures this week. It looks really good with Black Marble. Water is dark bluish Emerald green. Chemistry has settled and remains steady. We added Intellichem and Screenlogic2 for full automation and remote monitoring.

    Based on our experience with the process, it was worth every extra penny to go with PebbleTec and Gardner Pools.
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    Here is how the final work looks after the first 60 days.
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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Look at that reflection in the pool! You have the water dialed in for sure! I hope all is going well with maintaining it! It sure looks like it!

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Wow that turned out really nice. Great way to use the backyard for a very custom shape pool!

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    Re: New Pool/Spa Build - Temecula, CA

    Thanks guys. I went against the tide to get the pool dialed in. I discontinued my PoolPilot Total Control SWCG, and instead, I installed an Intellichem with Acid and chlorine tanks. The automatic ORP and PH has been operating fantastic for weeks. It keeps without manual adjustments, the PH at 7.4 and Chlorine at 2.0. Keeping the ALK at 80-90. I was skeptical of the ability to keep FC using ORP, but it works like a charm. My maintenance is limited to vacuum and brushing and adding a little ALK-up once or twice weekly. Readings are:

    FC: 2
    TC: 2
    PH: 7.4
    ALK: 85
    CH: 350
    CYA: 30
    TDS: 850
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