Thanks pooldv, now showing FC=0, TC=barely showing (using strip test for now, doesn't test CC). CYA=70-80 (using K2006). This ? comes to mind, since most liquid chlorine is between 6 and 12% and SHOCK (hth from Wal-Mart is 56.44%) why wouldn't it be best to always use SHOCK (or granular-comparable)? One more ?, when viewing the black dot for CYA test; inside workshop under florescent light I got 90, outside in daylight I got 70, Is there a best method to view the dot? Adding this comment a little later; The type of shock I'm referring to is the "htp super shock", shows Calcium Hypochlorite 56.44%, other 43.56%, I called to double check the "other" didn't contain CYA, basically it is inert. The Gal of Bleach is about $5, the 1lb bag of Cal-Hypo is $3,50 in a 6pk bag. I pre-dilute the Cal-Hpo to avoid bleaching the liner (if used) and punch a hole with an ice-pick (about 1/8") and lay the gal bottle across the skimmer top opening (corner to corner) - so either one is not very hard to dispense. The Cal-Hypo would be easier to store and a little cheaper - I lean towards that one.